How do we resolve the Brexit mess?

[west didsblue]

Why satire is dead (or at best flaccid) at the moment.

Yep.
I’d defy anyone to satirise Rees Mogg.

 

[Saddleworth2]

‘What have we done?’: six years on, UK counts the cost of Brexit

Sectors from fishing to aviation, farming to science report being bogged down in red tape, struggling to recruit staff and racking up losses for the first time

www.theguardian.com

 

[Mike D]

James Dyson thinks that we need to recreate our very own Singapore on Thames

So a bonfire of regulations and a lowering of taxes should be just the ticket.

Only problem is that this kind of gets in the way of all these Brexit pipe dreams
You see when you are around all these countries that can manufacture the required technology its just dandy. Compared when you are thousands of miles away from this. Then there is a also the population issue of one country having 14 times more people and making all of them engineers isn't going to cut.

 

[BobKowalski]

James Dyson thinks that we need to recreate our very own Singapore on Thames

So a bonfire of regulations and a lowering of taxes should be just the ticket.

Only problem is that this kind of gets in the way of all these Brexit pipe dreams
You see when you are around all these countries that can manufacture the required technology its just dandy. Compared when you are thousands of miles away from this. Then there is a also the population issue of one country having 14 times more people and making all of them engineers isn't going to cut.
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It‘s fantasy talk, because when you get down to what regulations are to be axed you end up with fluff about signage at the exit of the Dartford Tunnel or hoover suction strength. It’s right wing/conservative porn.

The problem we have as the UK is that we can’t admit the deal we did with the EU is all kinds of shite with regulatory tariff barriers galore and part of the UK in the EU economic zone. We weren’t honest about that at the 2019 election and are now paying the price. We can’t be honest about closer economic ties as it will involve things no politician wants to talk about, so we just have more fluff about ‘making it work’ with little to no detail. The Lib Dems can’t be honest about rejoining because the sweet deal we had is no longer available and the EU are in no great rush to have us back anyway.

Short term it’s just going to be sour relations and rancour - which won’t help business recovery one iota, and medium term us trying to secure a better deal on the grounds the next PM/Govt is a much nicer than Johnson. Which is just another form of having our cake and eating it.

Quite how we managed to fuck up what a) was a sweet deal and b) put ourselves into this weak position with Europe will be a history lesson in itself.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Quite how we managed to fuck up what a) was a sweet deal and b) put ourselves into this weak position with Europe will be a history lesson in itself.

Simples:
Politicians who put self and party in front of country
A populace stupid enough to swallow said politicians lies and the poison being dripped in their ears from a right wing press.

I guess you can’t swallow poison if it’s dripped in your ear but you get the drift.

 

[Mike D]

It‘s fantasy talk, because when you get down to what regulations are to be axed you end up with fluff about signage at the exit of the Dartford Tunnel or hoover suction strength. It’s right wing/conservative porn.

The problem we have as the UK is that we can’t admit the deal we did with the EU is all kinds of shite with regulatory tariff barriers galore and part of the UK in the EU economic zone. We weren’t honest about that at the 2019 election and are now paying the price. We can’t be honest about closer economic ties as it will involve things no politician wants to talk about, so we just have more fluff about ‘making it work’ with little to no detail. The Lib Dems can’t be honest about rejoining because the sweet deal we had is no longer available and the EU are in no great rush to have us back anyway.

Short term it’s just going to be sour relations and rancour - which won’t help business recovery one iota, and medium term us trying to secure a better deal on the grounds the next PM/Govt is a much nicer than Johnson. Which is just another form of having our cake and eating it.

Quite how we managed to fuck up what a) was a sweet deal and b) put ourselves into this weak position with Europe will be a history lesson in itself.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Dyson just hates the EU - like most of them he tries to somehow explain that using words that he thinks give a different impression but they just don't - bitter old man or ill informed businessman take your pick but he is a bell

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Singapore also has two sovereign wealth funds that manage a collective Singapore $1.1 trillion in assets (almost 800 billion usd/650 bil. gbp).

The tories are idealogically opposed to state intervention in industry and persist with policies that cost more and return less (e. g. private rail franchise model).

It’s so incoherent that you'd have to believe they were insane if it wasn't just a slogan designed to rip up employment and environmental protections.

 

[Mike D]

Dyson just hates the EU - like most of them he tries to somehow explain that using words that he thinks give a different impression but they just don't - bitter old man or ill informed businessman take your pick but he is a bell

He's a disaster capitalist and sees a bonfire of regulation and taxes and a win win for him.

 

[Vic]

Why satire is dead (or at best flaccid) at the moment.

He's satirised himself today. A tweet about Britain joining the CPTetc and headed "Free trade always leads to prosperity".