Some interesting stats about the way we play

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Just been reading a really interesting article in The Economist, which someone mentioned in another thread and which illustrates something some of us have been saying for a while:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2015/12/competitive-balance-football.

They highlighted all sorts of stats to try to understand why the PL is so competitive and unpredictable this season and one graphic caught my eye:

It's the one on the right, in which the horizontal 'x' axis shows the average speed that teams advance the ball towards the opposition goal and the 'y' axis shows the average distance from the goal that we shoot from. Leicester move the ball the second fastest in the PL when attacking the opposition goal and we are the slowest, just behind Chelsea.

This is not necessarily a problem in itself but shows that we tend to camp on the edge of our opponent's area and keep the ball, rather than launch it forward like Leicester do. I suspect Arsenal were in our position a couple of seasons ago, trying to walk the ball into the net, but have changed their style to get the ball forward quicker in an attacking scenario. However they still like to be closest to the goal when having a shot. Chelsea, on the other hand, move the ball slowly but are shooting from distance and therefore converting fewer chances.

More ominously, the article talks about Leicester and how Kante and Drinkwater get the ball forward to Vardy & Mahrez quickly. It concludes that if you press them relentlessly, they are less likely to be able to do that. That suggests that Toure would be a liability in midfield and that we would be better off with Fernandinho, Delph and Fernando in the middle, all of whom are instructed to be in on Drinkwater & Kante quickly, in the way Liverpool were with Toure. Then I'd play Silva behind Sterling and Aguero, as Silva can also put his foot in when required. I'm sure we won't do that though and that we'll give the Leicester mid-field the run of the park, allowing them to put Vardy & Mahrez in behind our defensive high line.
 
I think it is common sense that if you press someone, put them under pressure where they have to make a decision much more quickly, then they are more likely to lose the ball or make a bad decision. Yer can't beat Carlos Alberto T 32 charging all over the pitch, the sounds of a bull on the pampas, to put the wind up a defender!
 
Posted on another thread that our problem even pre Pellegrini was how we perform without the ball.

It amazing the number of games I've watched where we have to work hard, build up pressure to earn a goal. Whereas our opponents score with little possession or build up of pressure.
 
Just been reading a really interesting article in The Economist, which someone mentioned in another thread and which illustrates something some of us have been saying for a while:
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2015/12/competitive-balance-football.

They highlighted all sorts of stats to try to understand why the PL is so competitive and unpredictable this season and one graphic caught my eye:

It's the one on the right, in which the horizontal 'x' axis shows the average speed that teams advance the ball towards the opposition goal and the 'y' axis shows the average distance from the goal that we shoot from. Leicester move the ball the second fastest in the PL when attacking the opposition goal and we are the slowest, just behind Chelsea.

This is not necessarily a problem in itself but shows that we tend to camp on the edge of our opponent's area and keep the ball, rather than launch it forward like Leicester do. I suspect Arsenal were in our position a couple of seasons ago, trying to walk the ball into the net, but have changed their style to get the ball forward quicker in an attacking scenario. However they still like to be closest to the goal when having a shot. Chelsea, on the other hand, move the ball slowly but are shooting from distance and therefore converting fewer chances.

More ominously, the article talks about Leicester and how Kante and Drinkwater get the ball forward to Vardy & Mahrez quickly. It concludes that if you press them relentlessly, they are less likely to be able to do that. That suggests that Toure would be a liability in midfield and that we would be better off with Fernandinho, Delph and Fernando in the middle, all of whom are instructed to be in on Drinkwater & Kante quickly, in the way Liverpool were with Toure. Then I'd play Silva behind Sterling and Aguero, as Silva can also put his foot in when required. I'm sure we won't do that though and that we'll give the Leicester mid-field the run of the park, allowing them to put Vardy & Mahrez in behind our defensive high line.
Which raises the question; with all technology we have at our disposal do we do enough analysis on our opponents?
 
Cliffs Notes Version:
We fuck about with sideways passing too much when the other team is compact and organized on defense, and don't work hard enough to press the shit out of the opposition when not in possession because some players can't be arsed.
 
Ah Yes, the solution seems to be what we were promised under Pellegrini and we have never seen for a single moment in nearly 3 years; the 'High Press'

In fact we are the complete antipathy of it.
 
Manuel said it after the Arsenal game. They scored 'with their first shot on goal'.

The concern there is he is using it as an excuse to move aside a defeat when the reality is he should be asking, why are we so easy to score against and why do we have to work so hard to score a goal?

Possession is only an advantage when we turn it into goals and for the first time in quite a while I'm starting to think that it's now a hallmark of this team, that we struggle to score as many goals as we should be.

I'm not sure if this is Manuel or the 'brand', but possession football clearly isn't working for us right now.

We need to move the ball faster, and forwards. Even possession teams like Arsenal have established how to play against us and actually adapt themselves to beat us.

There is only one team on this planet that plays the possession game like we do and that is Barcelona but they do it so much better than we do.

I do believe that is the long term strategy and we are still babies as far as that is concerned. Getting Pep this summer is beyond crucial. It will take us to the next level
 

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