Southport attacker pleads guilty to murdering three girls | Sentenced to 52 years in prison

[i kne albert davy]

Yes pal, you are correct. The character I was thinking of was Tom Willoughby, who was one of the guys who gave Harry a white feather.
Thanks for putting me right on that.

Was only cos I watched it the other week that private Fraser was a right bastard:-)

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Civil war won't happen unless it's state organised. The majority of people rub along just fine. Sure plenty have different viewpoints and some of those are very strong, but in general everybody tries to get on with their lives the best they can. People aren't stupid. Most of their neighbours are different faiths and nationalities. They know they have to rub along in this melting pot of life. They let the extremists on both sides kick off in their numerous protests and just carry on as normal. This is pissing off the powers that be who want it to escalate to rush through identity cards and then digital id. They have been pushing such for years.
I genuinely fear a huge orchestrated and coordinated terror attack to justify fetching in martial law and then punitive controls. I know the usual suspects will jump all over this with their tinfoil hat comments etcetera. I won't respond as there is no point. I will just end by saying remember they took this country into a war based on a blatant lie they made up to justify doing so. When a decent man totally refuted their lie he suddenly committed suicide. Of course he did. Never underestimate how far these people will go.

I think if there is a sniff of serious civil unrest we'll probably find a pretext for a war in Europe to allow fighting age men to expend all that energy on each other.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Unless you've been in that situation, i dont think anybody really can judge the taxi driver. We all like to think we would react properly and promptly but there's got to be major shock and confusion at what is happening and that is going to impact everybody differently.

Even if he thought this could be a terror attack unfolding, the actual reality of truly accepting that is what is happening is a different matter. He did nothing to deserve to be put into that situation and he is going to have to live with the constant thoughts about whether swifter actions could have saved anybody. That is a horrible thing to live with as is.

Youre applying logic and reason and humanity, and then transfering upon scousers. They are cunts and live in a different world to the rest of us

 

[manclad]

Was only cos I watched it the other week that private Fraser was a right bastard:-)

I usually watch the 2002 version of the book/film with Heath Ledger, Rupert Penry-Jones , Michael Sheen (Brian Clough) and the delectable Kate Hudson.

 

[youngbob]

Inquiry began yesterday.

Lots of heartbreaking and revealing comments from Rudakubana's family members over the last 24 hours, about their family history, Rudakubana's nature and personality, and how they've tried to make sense of the attack.

Southport killer's father Alphonse Rudakubana says family were 'kind of lonely' in UK

Alphonse Rudakubana describes how he came to the UK after surviving the Rwandan genocide.

www.bbc.co.uk

Seems the family fled the Rwandan genocide, which is how they came to the UK in the first place. Both Rudakubana brothers are autistic. Dion (the older brother) ended up in a wheelchair because of a muscular disorder, which resulted in Axel basically turning on him, because now Dion got more love and attention (as Axel saw it). Axel apparently used to hit Dion and would have violent outbursts, including smashing things up in the house.

Axel was expelled from school in 2019, which is when his behaviour got even worse. Parents apparently "lost control" of Axel. Seems he was reading online that smacking kids to discipline them amounts to abuse, so he turned on his dad, Alphonse, specifically for smacking him on the bum as a child. Dion says Axel was being bullied at school but that Axel never spoke about it at home. Dion says that by 2022 he was worried about Axel killing Alphonse if an argument turned nasty.

Dion stopped speaking to Axel in 2023 and moved out of the family home.

Police made a visit to the Rudakubanas in 2019. Axel was taking knives to school - the school denies this. Axel then attacked a fellow school pupil with a hockey stick in December 2019. He was transferred to a different school before the pandemic hit, but he stopped attending any classes during lockdown. Any attempts to make him leave the house resulted in bad tempers and outbursts during this time.

Axel was referred to Prevent three times. Brother didn't know Prevent existed or that Axel was posting concerning things on social media. Axel was referred to social services after the hockey stick attack, and never usually came down from his bedroom during family meetings and gatherings. Axel was prescribed medication for anxiety but stopped taking it - had CAMHS meetings but refused to believe he had autism, insisting that he had ADHD instead.

Axel was caught with a knife on a bus in 2022 and was brought home by police. He was then cautioned by police again after trying to steal windscreen wipers from a car during an argument with Alphonse, which seems to have stemmed from Axel being denied access to a computer. Axel apparently had poison in the family home. Dion says his parents were concealing knives from Axel at the time.

Dion says Axel ordered and sold things on Amazon. He instructed his family to never touch boxes that arrived and would become violent and upset if they did. Family started to fear for their lives, as did friends of the family. His Alphonse was afraid of Axel, and Axel then began talking to himself frequently. The day of the attack, Dion was being helped in the shower by Alphonse when they noticed Axel (wearing a face mask) leave the house.

They realised Axel never left the house on his own and became quite scared, but after his mum said Axel was presumably just going for a walk, they calmed down. At this point they found empty packaging for a knife parcel in the house. It had been left in the washing machine. They didn't call the police because they again presumed he was just out walking, even with the knife (like prior incidents). Dion says a friend then told him that there had been "stabbings in town".

Dion believes Axel killed children because "children are very valuable and they are the future of society and it would hurt society very badly".

Alphonse says they didn't tell the kids about the Rwandan genocide until they were older, because of the horrors they lived through. They moved to Southport in 2012, 10 years after arriving in the UK. Axel initially did well at school but started deteriorating in 2019, after which point he was expelled. Alphonse says Axel began playing Fortnite all the time, even after Alphonse had tried to set parental controls on the computer.

Alphonse says he tried to request an SEN assessment in 2019. He contacted a GP about this but never heard back. Alphonse told Dion that Axel was "dangerous" and warned that "provoking" him could start violent outbursts. By 2021, Alphonse believed that Axel "hated" him. Asked why he didn't call the police, Alphonse says he believed Axel's anger was directed only towards him rather than anyone else.

RE: the incident that saw Axel try to steal windscreen wipers from a car, Alphonse says Axel kicked off because he didn't like a meal his dad had cooked (he doesn't mention the ban from the computer). Alphonse says he didn't report on every single one of these violent outbursts (only some of them) because he knew Axel was autistic and thought it was all just part of the condition.

Meeting carries on this afternoon.

 

[Winchester]

Pity they can't shoot the little bastard