Spurs (A) Post Match Thread

[Gordyola]

Agree and also, Zin changed direction to make sure he got the player

More madding because Kyle was ready to sweep it up he'd anticipated the knock on and was on it

 

[BolinCell]

So in summary
30.shots in 2 games 0 goals for us
Rags and Spurs combined 4 chances and 3 goals.
Is this just sheer bad luck or are there issues with finding the right pass etc and if it is, is this down to players not communicating enough or issues in the dressing room effecting morale?
It defies any logic.

Would seem an issue with the goalkeeping if so few chances lead to so many goals.

 

[Grassland Blue]

Just to add insult to injury! Dr Who three minutes in has a scene in a pub with a TV spouting the line: “Another win for Liverpool has seen them increase the pressure on their title rivals Manchester City”.........I kid you not!! You’ve gotta laugh or you’d cry. :-) :-(

Can Dr. Who take us back to last season..?

 

[domalino]

Yeah, you maybe right. Always feels like we're going to lose when we're so wasteful in front of goal. We were by far the better team prior to the red card though.

I think the players have bought into this as well, and that's 90% of the problem.

It's like if we don't score with the first chance than every subsequent one the players feel less and less likely to score.

Certainly if we get 25 minutes in and it's 0-0 after a few big chances, instead of the players looking like they've got their foot on the oppositions neck, they seem to be looking around saying "Oh christ it's one of those games again" just like the fans and then there's a desperation that sets in and panic in the box and it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[Grassland Blue]

I posted last week Sterling was bound to get a muscle injury due to the lack of a sustained period of rest, today it happened, hopefully it's just a minor one. Yet we have complete fucking retards on here calling for him to be sold. You should hang your fucking heads in shame each and every single one of you.

He's been as consistent as anybody over these last two years but the amount of games has caught up with him physically and mentally. This was bound to happen at some stage, he gives everything he has every week and he'll go through periods of good and bad form, now is when we need to support the lad more than ever.

What stands for Sterling also stands for the rest of the team, we've played more games as a club with the league, league cup, fa cup and champions league than anyone this last 2-3 years, we've won 7/8 trophies in those 2-3 years, and we're now paying the price for success. Pep and the players are burnt out, there's only so long humans can keep up that level of performance over such a sustained period, when you've got everything stacked against you (officials, VAR, luck at the moment and injuries).

A lot of you soft bastards on here need to man up and accept we're going through a dip in form, we'll be back, however long it takes.

Well said!

 

[Grassland Blue]

I agree the last 2 seasons have caught up with us. It's hard enough to win back to back titles and 3 in a row is nigh on impossible nowadays. I still believe Pep should have freshened the squad up with more quality in the summer in the centre back and left back positions and possibly another striker although Aguero is still playing well as is Jesus when he gets the chance. Sign Matt le tissier just to come on for penalties as in nfl special teams:-)

We nearly got Fred..

 

[Grassland Blue]

Pep probably came on here and found it infested with Dipper twats. It gets to me. All coming out of the woodwork after years of premature celebrations at this time of year and having to get refunds on their champions of Premier league t shirts come May

Our full strength side is better than theirs.

 

[stonerblue]

I’m still not sure why he got a foul given against him, let alone a second yellow and sent off. The game has become too precious. It was a shoulder charge, plain and simple. We are losing the essence of the physical aspects of the game.

No CB, it was a foul plain and simple. Made no attempt to get near the ball. Soft, yes, but a foul nontheless

 

[stonerblue]

Yeah, you're right, what pissed me off though was that I thought Zinchenko had a good game until then, he'd
been involved in some good defensive work, nicking the ball back, and his overall play was good.

Yeah he was doing fine until the brain fart.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

yup that’s true. Both feet were off tho. It’s a really tough call on field. Given VAR can pick up on encroachment I’m not sure why it isn’t allowed to monitor this. But that’s VAR - badly thought out

I know, I was just making a point about the rule - a rule that is rarely enforced.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Yeah he was doing fine until the brain fart.

We were barged over several times - the ref waved 'play on'.

 

[stonerblue]

Didn't see exactly what Zinchenko did to get his first yellow in the melee after Gundogan's penalty, but no complaints at all about the second. It was as clear a booking as you will see, and Zinchenko himself has apologised for it. It undoubtedly cost us the game.

To his credit he was straight in there when spurs players - some had run 30 yards - were having a go at Sterling. Can't recall the spurs player but fuck me he couldn't wait to give Sterling some shit.

 

[HarrytheBlue]

I wonder how the Spurs fans feel about the game. They probably think they did really well...

Some on the BBC HYS realise that they were schooled and can't believe they got any points, let alone 3.

 

[Bozzie]

Would seem an issue with the goalkeeping if so few chances lead to so many goals.

Can't blame either keeper for the goals in the last two matches. The Matic and the first one yesterday were both really clean strikes into the bottom corner, the Son goal was a comfortable save until it deflected off Fernandinho's boot.

 

[Lovebitesandeveryfing]

Would seem an issue with the goalkeeping if so few chances lead to so many goals.

Ed was thoroughly unsighted for the first. I was directly in line with it. He saw it very late. I believe he would have got it if he'd seen it coming, although there's no way of knowing, obviously. For the second, there was apparently a deflection. And there's no legislating for that.
No, the truth is - even if it's very hard to swallow - we were a mess for ten minutes, during which the game was won and lost. Otherwise, for about seventy-five minutes, both before and after that period, we were clearly the better team. Dominating Spurs, in fact making them look scared, on their own turf! It's no consolation, but any neutral would recognise that that's the way it was

 

[HarrytheBlue]

Well, if you believe Pep, we aspire to be European Champions. I ( and many others on here) have been saying all year there is no chance we win it with that defence. That issue is now compounded by the fact that we are struggling to score. It isn’t just today. Yes we have scored a lot of goals but the number of chances we have squandered is mind blowing.

if we can’t win the champions league then our next goal has to be to compete in the league. Liverpool have now raised the bar we set in the last two seasons and we have to strengthen if we are to compete with them.

Liverpool's time at the top will be short lived - their superstars are all in the 27/28/29 age bracket - all at their peak whereas we have more of a spread amongst our top players. They won't find replacements for Salah, Firmino and Mane easily. VVD is coming up to 29 - wasted a lot of years at lesser teams. Klopp's been there over five years, and his wife hates living here. We were all a bit surprised when he left Dortmund. Things can change very quickly. We're second, still in every Cup and at Wembley. Not bad seeing as we're struggling. That's the context - struggling but still good enough to remain in every Cup.

 

[SpursLoyal]

Some on the BBC HYS realise that they were schooled and can't believe they got any points, let alone 3.

Every one of my mates knows we got lucky. Not met a Spurs fan that thinks otherwise.
But we have been in games like that many many times. Batter the opposition and lose to a sucker punch.

And as for VAR.....hate it. Even when it goes in our favour. It is an abomination.

 

[doobyedoobye]

But that’s the most important bit and in two games against Spurs this season we should have scored about 32 times from 52 shots and we scored 2!

Agreed, but the fact we are still creating bucket loads of chances gives me hope that the fix is not a monumental one

 

[stonerblue]

Agreed and not disputing he deserved the red. However if we could take a bloody corner properly and if gundogan had done what he half heartedly attempted then Zin wouldn’t of needed to foul him.

And if the ref hadn't given Sterling a yellow for his 'foul' on Ali then the clamour for another one wouldn't have occured, Zinchenko wouldn't have had to help out his team mate, picking up a yellow in the process, and would've been able to take Winks out without getting sent off...

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

The best 11 is a strange one as although rotation is important I feel that you should only rotate when a player's performance drops. If Jesus scores a hattrick in one game he should not be dropped for the next game for example, no matter what. If a player knows that their performance won't make any difference it's difficult to keep them motivated and it could be my imagination but rotation seems heavy this year.

I can see both sides of the argument, to be honest. At our best in the last two years the system trumped the players, so any player coming in new where he needed to be, so you could swap, say, Sane and Silva and still have more or less the same outcome. Through a mixture of injuries, failure in the champs league or teams figuring it out, Pep is clearly now trying to figure out Plan As and Bs with the players he has, and the "best" player might not fit that. If that brings 2 years of success after this season, and we are experimenting now to achieve that, then so be it. But it can be frustrating to watch week in week out, when you know Mahrez and Jesus would probably do something having a proper run in the team.