urban genie
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Saw it on Saturday and I thought it was excellent. So much better than Force Awakens, too - if only Edwards had directed that as well.
FA was just one deus ex machina after another. Even in fantasy (which SW is; it's not sci-fi) you have to stick to the rules. By all means decide what those rules are, but you still must stick to them if you are to have a believable and coherent narrative. FA was a mess in that regards (indoctrinated Stormtrooper suddenly having a pang of conscience on his first mission; dyed-in-the-wool Imperial Captain lowering the shields without resisting; Falcon coming out of hyperspace into a planet's atmosphere; etc.).
In some ways Rogue One was perfect. I don't mean to say it's one of the best films ever made, or even the best SW film; I mean that in terms of achieving what it set out to do, and how it went about it, there's nothing that could be changed to make it better. I watch FA and the prequels and can think of many things I would change about them; with RO, I can't yet.
The acting was great, the pace was great, and the way it tied in with New Hope whilst mopping up the continuity mess left by the prequels (in which the Death Star was bizarrely suggested as being a Separatist/Geonosian design) was very impressive. Aesthetically it was spot on. I was also relieved that they didn't kiss at the end; it looked like they might for a moment and I was worried, because it would have added a cheesy, tired and unnecessary sub-plot.
I suppose my only nitpick was Cushing's face; it just looked weird and was off-putting. I don't think it was entirely necessary to include Tarkin. Leia's looked more convincing but I suspect they may have used some deleted scene footage of her and superimposed it in.
I would agree with most of this, but you are a bit hard on FA in my opinion, the reference to the force awakening is not about Rey it's about Finn, hence his sudden change, the clues are there, Kylo looking at him when he has his apithany, then snoke and Ren talk about the awakening long before Rey feels the force. Also only people stong with the force can so adeptly pick up a light sabre and wield in expertly as he does twice. Lastly when the star killer destroys the three systems Finn feels and hears their screams as he is boarding the cargo ship to the outer planets.
As for Phasma, she states that her troopers will defeat then and she is strong in that belief so shutting down a shield opposed to dying is plausable, if your conviction that your trained men are that good is there.
Thhe fact it was a rehash of a new hope is it's only critisism for me. still loved it though.