State Pension Increases

[Vic]

Are they really? Not all of them, many are still living in abject poverty. If they were, so fucking what? They've worked hard, many of them have paid their taxes and national insurance for over fifty years. Why shouldn't they have a few years enjoying life? Even with these "Massive increases" they're crying about it will only take the state pension up to a huge.....wait for it.....£11,500 a year. Hardly enough to live a champagne lifestyle is it?

State pension is too low but "abject poverty"? Maybe one in five pensioners are in relative poverty, but "inequalities within older generations are some of the most extreme in society today: the wealth of the richest 20% doubled between 2002 and 2018, while that of the poorest 20% fell by 30%".

The current UK pensioners (as a whole) are the most wealthy - and numerous - in history. The future pensioners, without home ownership, and in a country made poorer by the votes of the older generation, will be less numerous (because you'll get the pension at 70 rather than 65) and with less savings and poorer company and private pensions.

By the votes I don't just mean Brexit but the older generation's readiness to vote for the people who opposed the health system that's enabled them to live long enough to enjoy their pensions.

The proportion of pension age adults in relative poverty went down from 24% to 14% under the last Labour government, and it's back up to nearer 20.

The State of Ageing 2022

Our online, interactive report captures a snapshot of how people in the UK are ageing today, while looking at past trends and our prospects if action isn't taken.

ageing-better.org.uk

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

I get this all the time now, 54 and retired, you look to young to be retired, people think you should have a zimmer frame and colostomy bag to be retired, it’s plain wrong.

I have a colostomy and need crutches to get around. Can I retire yet? I’m about two-three decades too young but I feel about 80.

I guess to your point everybody is different in that respect, people probably look at me and think “this poor fucker still working well into his winter years”.

 

[mosssideblue]

I don't dispute there are many other areas where this corrupt bunch of kleptocratic scumbags running this country could equally save money, continuing to further reward the wealthiest generation in society is one of them.

Stop being stupid (tall order, I know)

 

[jacko74]

State pension is too low but "abject poverty"? Maybe one in five pensioners are in relative poverty, but "inequalities within older generations are some of the most extreme in society today: the wealth of the richest 20% doubled between 2002 and 2018, while that of the poorest 20% fell by 30%".

The current UK pensioners (as a whole) are the most wealthy - and numerous - in history. The future pensioners, without home ownership, and in a country made poorer by the votes of the older generation, will be less numerous (because you'll get the pension at 70 rather than 65) and with less savings and poorer company and private pensions.

By the votes I don't just mean Brexit but the older generation's readiness to vote for the people who opposed the health system that's enabled them to live long enough to enjoy their pensions.

The proportion of pension age adults in relative poverty went down from 24% to 14% under the last Labour government, and it's back up to nearer 20.

The State of Ageing 2022

Our online, interactive report captures a snapshot of how people in the UK are ageing today, while looking at past trends and our prospects if action isn't taken.

ageing-better.org.uk

We also need to define just what "poverty" is actually supposed to mean as there's no clear numerical definition of just what it's supposed to be no matter how hard you look for it.

 

[paulchapo]

State pension is too low but "abject poverty"? Maybe one in five pensioners are in relative poverty, but "inequalities within older generations are some of the most extreme in society today: the wealth of the richest 20% doubled between 2002 and 2018, while that of the poorest 20% fell by 30%".

The current UK pensioners (as a whole) are the most wealthy - and numerous - in history. The future pensioners, without home ownership, and in a country made poorer by the votes of the older generation, will be less numerous (because you'll get the pension at 70 rather than 65) and with less savings and poorer company and private pensions.

By the votes I don't just mean Brexit but the older generation's readiness to vote for the people who opposed the health system that's enabled them to live long enough to enjoy their pensions.

The proportion of pension age adults in relative poverty went down from 24% to 14% under the last Labour government, and it's back up to nearer 20.

The State of Ageing 2022

Our online, interactive report captures a snapshot of how people in the UK are ageing today, while looking at past trends and our prospects if action isn't taken.

ageing-better.org.uk

Get in the same box as Jack(O)

 

[jacko74]

Bullshit

Jesus are people really so feckless, reckless and financially incompetent that they can't even comprehend a perfectly achievable lifestyle on £6k a year?

 

[jacko74]

Stop being stupid (tall order, I know)

Can you explain in what way making the entirely factually accurate statement that the current generation of pensioners is the wealthiest generation in society classes me as stupid?

 

[Scottyboi]

Can you explain in what way making the entirely factually accurate statement that the current generation of pensioners is the wealthiest generation in society classes me as stupid?

Not sure why you're getting so much grief over that lmao funny though.

 

[Vic]

I get this all the time now, 54 and retired, you look to young to be retired, people think you should have a zimmer frame and colostomy bag to be retired, it’s plain wrong.

But you were in a job with a pension payable after 30 years service (with hazardous working conditions that may curb your life expectancy).

Enjoy the feeling. My guilty pleasure is running for a bus then showing my concessionary pass. *

* post-Covid, bus pass usage has not recovered (only 50-60% of what it was). Still some reluctance to risk crowds - or just more pensioners with cars...?

 

[mosssideblue]

Can you explain in what way making the entirely factually accurate statement that the current generation of pensioners is the wealthiest generation in society classes me as stupid?

The number of pensioners seen on a daily basis needing help from their families to eat, keep warm and have comfort in conversation with someone or face a life of misery in very uncomfortable conditions. You might think you are being smart claiming you can get comfortably on £6k / year which most don't believe and then preach if you can do it, then why cannot everyone else. That comment alone makes you beyond stupid.

But we all know you are here wumming