State Pension Increases

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The triple lock is a complicated debate but I’m more than happy to state that ‘Boomers’, the spawn of the most remarkable and selfless generation this country has produced, are (overall) probably the most selfish.

 

[paulchapo]

Bring a bottle











And a pot noodle

Don't forget the flask of boiling water for the pot noodle I'm sure he won't stretch to that expense!

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

I think we should set up a crowd fund for EB’s renovations. Be more than happy to contribute but can’t set one up myself for, err, reasons.. :-)

We could just send this fella round

 

[paulchapo]

The triple lock is a complicated debate but I’m more than happy to state that ‘Boomers’, the spawn of the most remarkable and selfless generation this country has produced, are (overall) probably the most selfish.

They were/are just people doing the best for themselves and their families. Is it their fault if circumstances were more favourable back then for work, possibly buying a house etcetera? If they were living in those times I'm sure they didn't feel lucky or priveleged. They went to work, got a mortgage, saved money and probably paid into a pension. Decades later people can now say they were lucky and for some reason are selfish, sorry but that's nonsense.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

They were/are just people doing the best for themselves and their families. Is it their fault if circumstances were more favourable back then for work, possibly buying a house etcetera? If they were living in those times I'm sure they didn't feel lucky or priveleged. They went to work, got a mortgage, saved money and probably paid into a pension. Decades later people can now say they were lucky and for some reason are selfish, sorry but that's nonsense.

The first sentence of your post applies to any generation in human history.

And yes, they had their struggles, don’t we all; that is an inherent part of the human condition.

I simply think they could have done more with their good fortune to make our society a better and more equal place to live. And they haven’t.

Does anyone actually think that our society works better than it did 40 years ago? To suggest the main beneficiaries over that period haven’t contributed to that decay simply doesn’t hold water.

Maybe my view is somewhat skewed because I live where I do, but someone in their 70s and 80s does not need to live in a massive house, and I include my parents in that equation. There needs to be a big rethink about wealth distribution in this country.

The problem is human nature. People don’t want to give up what they feel they’ve earned. So they need to be compelled

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Honestly mate, I’ve been saving into a private pension for over a decade (I’m in my early 30s). Thought I was being the sensible one who would be laughing in my 60s. Now seriously thinking I could have just gone on holiday twice a year instead.

I started a private pension for my 8 year old son.

BTW you get 25% tax free if you pay in the maximum £2880 to a child’s pension (to top it up to £3600).

 

[mexico1970]

The first sentence of your post applies to any generation in human history.

And yes, they had their struggles, don’t we all; that is an inherent part of the human condition.

I simply think they could have done more with their good fortune to make our society a better and more equal place to live. And they haven’t.

Does anyone actually think that our society works better than it did 40 years ago? To suggest the main beneficiaries over that period haven’t contributed to that decay simply doesn’t hold water.

Maybe my view is somewhat skewed because I live where I do, but someone in their 70s and 80s does not need to live in a massive house, and I include my parents in that equation. There needs to be a big rethink about wealth distribution in this country.

The problem is human nature. People don’t want to give up what they feel they’ve earned. So they need to be compelled

How would you compel them?
How many acquired resources are too many?

 

[Blue Maverick]

There's only rats in the cottages!

Well it’s not far from Liverpool

 

[normskih]

It's tough on lots of people. Many are fucked, mentally or physically, or both, by 55.

The problem is the easy, low-grade jobs that used to be available have almost all gone. There really is no room for the Alf Ventriss brigade anymore. How you fix that, I don't know.

The Town Hall alone used to be stuffed with basic clerical jobs that many people could (in principle) have done at age 75. All done away with long, long ago, because of computers and 'efficiency'. The railways were similar. I can remember when Belle Vue Station employed about 6 blokes. No one now. Work is high-pressure and demanding, and you need to be young and fit. Or at least fit. The modern way is to sweat people to death and then leave the state to sort out the casualties. It's unsustainable.

Correct, people seem to think sat behind a desk is easy, it isn’t (not that I do). To do that, day in, day out, eight, nine or more hour a day. Yes, I know, risk assessment galore but that doesn’t include the damage it might do to your brain. No one has yet to understand what effect it has on the brain, the years of looking at computer monitor. Do they flicker at many times per second? Anyway, in years to come, it may all come out.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

After the end of the cold war and the good Friday agreement the savings could have shored up the NHS, welfare state and pensions for generations. Instead we did Iraq twice and Afghanistan.