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Stoke Vs City Post Match Discussion Thread
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argyle said:jrb said:Shafter said:When all is said and done....we were better than you yeasterday, we deserved to win, and it was only a result of our woeful finishing which meant we only came away with a point.
You can say what you want about Stoke but our "thugs" sould never ever ever ever ever dare to attempt to make you look average.......
....but we did!
How you all doing by the way :)
They did.
But I can say with 100% certainty that Stoke City will have another average season at best.
You may have won the war yesterday, but once again City will win the battle, come May.
Enjoy your draw, clean sheet, and point. :-)
The quote is the supposed to be the other way round mate.
After a self inflicted defeat on the thread, I have surrendered. :-(
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:m7mcfc said:Barry was class for Everton today all the blue dipper sceptics were converted after 45 minutes. Big mistake letting him go.
Agreed
I posted something similar on his thread
citymad
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Bluekiwi said:Ifwecouldjust....... said:m7mcfc said:Barry was class for Everton today all the blue dipper sceptics were converted after 45 minutes. Big mistake letting him go.
Agreed
I posted something similar on his thread
Were getting quite good at letting players go just when we might need them. NDJ, Tev (god i miss Tevs love for the game) Kolo and now GazBaz. Just waiting on Sinclair to start dazzling on the wing for the Baggies.... alright perhaps that's a bit too much to expect:)
jrb said:argyle said:jrb said:They did.
But I can say with 100% certainty that Stoke City will have another average season at best.
You may have won the war yesterday, but once again City will win the battle, come May.
Enjoy your draw, clean sheet, and point. :-)
The quote is the supposed to be the other way round mate.
After a self inflicted defeat on the thread, I have surrendered. :-(
Keep fighting the good fight :)
George Hannah
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and even incrediblemalg said:Fucking hell, we really have gone into meltdown. Some of the stuff on here is just incredulous.
GazM
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Lucky to get a point. If Stoke had better quality strikers it would have been 3 points to them.
Concerned about the money spent & lack of obvious improvement. Have I missed something ? Yes, we've scored a few & conceded very little (3 clean sheets) but the stats don't provide the complete picture.
Concerned about the money spent & lack of obvious improvement. Have I missed something ? Yes, we've scored a few & conceded very little (3 clean sheets) but the stats don't provide the complete picture.
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Not sure why people are still banging on about ''letting'' NDJ go. IIRC, he wanted a move to get more first team football. Remember; he was an infrequent starter in the title winning season. And yes, I do miss him.citymad said:Bluekiwi said:Ifwecouldjust....... said:Agreed
I posted something similar on his thread
Were getting quite good at letting players go just when we might need them. NDJ, Tev (god i miss Tevs love for the game) Kolo and now GazBaz. Just waiting on Sinclair to start dazzling on the wing for the Baggies.... alright perhaps that's a bit too much to expect:)
StrutterBlue
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LOL! Think you need to check the quote mate :Pjrb said:You may have won the war yesterday, but once again City will win the battle, come May.
Shafter said:When all is said and done....we were better than you yeasterday, we deserved to win, and it was only a result of our woeful finishing which meant we only came away with a point.
You can say what you want about Stoke but our "thugs" sould never ever ever ever ever dare to attempt to make you look average.......
....but we did!
How you all doing by the way :)
No sour grapes from me mate, thought you played really well and deserved the 3 points. Good luck for the rest of the season.
does make me laugh when people say we kept a clean sheet, it wasnt our defending that kept us a clean sheet, it was Stokes poor finishing. so i wouldnt use that as something positive from that performance.
we were told we would press high up the pitch, win the ball back quickly and move it forward with pace... not seen anything like that yet.
we were told we would press high up the pitch, win the ball back quickly and move it forward with pace... not seen anything like that yet.
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mekonmcfc said:does make me laugh when people say we kept a clean sheet, it wasnt our defending that kept us a clean sheet, it was Stokes poor finishing. so i wouldnt use that as something positive from that performance.
we were told we would press high up the pitch, win the ball back quickly and move it forward with pace... not seen anything like that yet.
I think the penny will finally drop with many soon...
Vinnie doesn't play, the manager has no confidence in the back 4 so play in a way to combat the opposition, centre half was essential as i can see Vinnie missing many games this season/
We had one of the best readers of the game at City, had a knack of being in the right place and more important the rest of the team had the confidence that with him in the team they were free to attack as a unit
u2fme2
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a huge step backwards for me this season so far,
i hope it gets better and bloody quick too
i hope it gets better and bloody quick too
Eccles Blue
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Ric said:Five talking points from yesterday's game:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?id=404" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?id=404</a>
Ric,
When I tried to make a comment on your points it came up with this response: Internal Error
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This happened the other day when I wanted to comment on the Stoke fan's remarks as well.
Eccles Blue said:Ric said:Five talking points from yesterday's game:
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Ric,
When I tried to make a comment on your points it came up with this response: Internal Error
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This happened the other day when I wanted to comment on the Stoke fan's remarks as well.
Thanks for letting me know, will look into it now.
Edit: Fixed now :)
Eccles Blue
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Ric said:Eccles Blue said:Ric said:Five talking points from yesterday's game:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?id=404" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/News/Article.aspx?id=404</a>
Ric,
When I tried to make a comment on your points it came up with this response: Internal Error
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This happened the other day when I wanted to comment on the Stoke fan's remarks as well.
Thanks for letting me know, will look into it now.
Thanks Ric, trust me to be the one to find it!! I live to either make people smile/laugh or cause you problems!! It's a good job you know me and know I don't do it deliberately. :-)
Posted now, I'm not daft, this time I copied what I had written!!!!! Wouldn't want to waste my words of wisdom twice!! *falls off chair laughing*
Excellent points but the key at the moment is the one about patience. We must stick to our beliefs and not get dragged into a media witch hunt again - they just love that. What I find interesting is we play two more English midfielders (which should be applauded) and we then have sky pundits saying "MP picked the wrong team and we are poor" Yet if we were to play our strongest 11 and leave Milner & Rodwell on the bench we would be blamed for ruining the national game. In many ways as a club we can't win. As fans though we must stay supportive of our team - yes I know it was galling to see Barry play so well, but it was his debut and he is a good player who has always been constantly underrated. Again would the media have gone on about his performance so much had it been in our shirt? I doubt it. For the future it was the correct decision by the powers that be to move him on. There is nothing wrong with our squad, lets just have an appraisal after another six or seven games.
RE Ric's five-point analysis:
1.Ineffective utilisation of Yaya. Agreed and this is the heart of the problem.Both Pellegrini and Txiki know all about Yaya's defensive role at Barcelona. But that was with a team famed for their ball retention operating in a league very different to the hurly-burly of the Premiership.
2.Joe Hart's's return to form. Agreed.
The media were on his case for purely nationalistic reasons-they feared he might slip up and threaten England's chances of getting to Brazil.
3.Formation change-from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1. Agreed except that, for the derby, I would prefer Negredo to Aguero - he has the build and the controlled aggression to sort out Vidic and Ferdinand.
4.Garcia can't play centre half. Totally agreed. Some posters exonerate Garcia because his errors haven't immediately led to goals. But the issue is team confidence.That clumsy non-clearance against Stoke was appalling but, as you note, Zaba bailed him out. Same thing at Cardiff where there were two other blunders but he was reprieved-once by Hart and the other time by sheer good luck.This is undermining Nastasic, still only twenty, but a very promising centre-back when VK is there.
5. Patience needed. Agreed. We must guard against defeatism- and the ' what if ?' ' syndrome.
Sorry not to quote directly but there seemed to be a technical issue with the link when I tried earlier on.
1.Ineffective utilisation of Yaya. Agreed and this is the heart of the problem.Both Pellegrini and Txiki know all about Yaya's defensive role at Barcelona. But that was with a team famed for their ball retention operating in a league very different to the hurly-burly of the Premiership.
2.Joe Hart's's return to form. Agreed.
The media were on his case for purely nationalistic reasons-they feared he might slip up and threaten England's chances of getting to Brazil.
3.Formation change-from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1. Agreed except that, for the derby, I would prefer Negredo to Aguero - he has the build and the controlled aggression to sort out Vidic and Ferdinand.
4.Garcia can't play centre half. Totally agreed. Some posters exonerate Garcia because his errors haven't immediately led to goals. But the issue is team confidence.That clumsy non-clearance against Stoke was appalling but, as you note, Zaba bailed him out. Same thing at Cardiff where there were two other blunders but he was reprieved-once by Hart and the other time by sheer good luck.This is undermining Nastasic, still only twenty, but a very promising centre-back when VK is there.
5. Patience needed. Agreed. We must guard against defeatism- and the ' what if ?' ' syndrome.
Sorry not to quote directly but there seemed to be a technical issue with the link when I tried earlier on.
Shafter
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Afternoon all. I was bladdered yesterday and can only vaguely recall posting on here last night haha.
Cheers anyway and great to have the season underway after a long summer without football.
Im sure it was just an off day for you on Saturday with a few players missing and its certain you'll come good but all looks promising for us so far under Hughes.
Granted...we havent got the resources to ever be world beaters.....and it will take forever to shake off our reputation of being long ball, anti football thugs....but if we keep going in the right direction then it can only be a good thing.
Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and see you for the return fixture at your place ;)<br /><br />-- Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:57 pm --<br /><br />Afternoon all. I was bladdered yesterday and can only vaguely recall posting on here last night haha.
Cheers anyway and great to have the season underway after a long summer without football.
Im sure it was just an off day for you on Saturday with a few players missing and its certain you'll come good but all looks promising for us so far under Hughes.
Granted...we havent got the resources to ever be world beaters.....and it will take forever to shake off our reputation of being long ball, anti football thugs....but if we keep going in the right direction then it can only be a good thing.
Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and see you for the return fixture at your place ;)
Cheers anyway and great to have the season underway after a long summer without football.
Im sure it was just an off day for you on Saturday with a few players missing and its certain you'll come good but all looks promising for us so far under Hughes.
Granted...we havent got the resources to ever be world beaters.....and it will take forever to shake off our reputation of being long ball, anti football thugs....but if we keep going in the right direction then it can only be a good thing.
Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and see you for the return fixture at your place ;)<br /><br />-- Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:57 pm --<br /><br />Afternoon all. I was bladdered yesterday and can only vaguely recall posting on here last night haha.
Cheers anyway and great to have the season underway after a long summer without football.
Im sure it was just an off day for you on Saturday with a few players missing and its certain you'll come good but all looks promising for us so far under Hughes.
Granted...we havent got the resources to ever be world beaters.....and it will take forever to shake off our reputation of being long ball, anti football thugs....but if we keep going in the right direction then it can only be a good thing.
Anyway, good luck for the rest of the season and see you for the return fixture at your place ;)