Get a grip! Jesus Christ
Edit: aren’t the lawyers for the immigrants claiming they are too scared of water to be housed on the Bibby?
We are being had.
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Edit: aren’t the lawyers for the immigrants claiming they are too scared of water to be housed on the Bibby?
We are being had.
Get a grip! Jesus Christ
I’m glad things are going so well for you.
They aren’t. I’m not a Tory. I have a £ £23000+ job. But let’s be realistic here, it’s heart string loophole politics.I’m glad things are going so well for you.
Kirkstall Blue
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The law society getting involved saying it’s only a very tiny minority that may assist claimants,It’s only a matter of time before braverman’s dream comes true and violence breaks out. The blame will be firmly apportioned.
Now she’s going after lawyers she deems to be assisting claimants.
Expect the fire-bombs through windows very soon.
And it won’t really matter to the purveyors of hate whether they are helping refugees or not, the seeds of hate and fear about ‘lefty’ lawyers are sown.
They know exactly which buttons to push.
Electioneering already
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I posted this today on the Conservative Party thread. Subject I feel strongly about so here it is again.
I’ve not heard or seen a coherent argument that makes a case to suggest that the Tories have done anything but make the situation worse.
Clearly the world is in turmoil and the number of refugees increases exponentially and every sensible person wants to stop the economic migrants abusing the system and see the end to people risking their lives to enter the UK.
But don’t respond to the Tory dog whistles which focus entirely on those who are abusing or gaming the system and avoid the look back at their own pathetic failings.
The last Home Office figures show that at end of 2022 there were 132,000 cases relating to 160,000 individuals Awaiting initial decision.
There are 3 times the number of applications waiting for an initial decision than there were in 2019.
The increasing numbers are worsened by the fact that there are more cases entering the asylum system than receiving decisions.
There were 10% fewer decisions made in 2022 than in 2019.
In 2010 46,000 people were deported. By 2021 this annual number had fallen to 9,500.
In the 2019 Home Office Report three main reasons were cited. Make your own mind up who should carry responsibility.
1. Gvmt had reduced the use of detention and the size of the detention estate
2. Gvmt made procedural changes following the Windrush scandal
3. There was a long running breakdown in data sharing between gvmt departments
Latterly Brexit with the end of the Dublin Agreement which allowed return of people to EU member states (with no mitigation plan) and the loss of EU funding for asylum and immigration activities has made the issue worse.
So from my perspective, focus if you like on the rights and wrongs of barges and the use of far flung outposts to process applications but don’t lose sight of the simple truth that the current government has spent a good few years digging a very deep hole. It’s only course of action now is that to wind people up and distract voters from their own failings.
I’ve not heard or seen a coherent argument that makes a case to suggest that the Tories have done anything but make the situation worse.
Clearly the world is in turmoil and the number of refugees increases exponentially and every sensible person wants to stop the economic migrants abusing the system and see the end to people risking their lives to enter the UK.
But don’t respond to the Tory dog whistles which focus entirely on those who are abusing or gaming the system and avoid the look back at their own pathetic failings.
The last Home Office figures show that at end of 2022 there were 132,000 cases relating to 160,000 individuals Awaiting initial decision.
There are 3 times the number of applications waiting for an initial decision than there were in 2019.
The increasing numbers are worsened by the fact that there are more cases entering the asylum system than receiving decisions.
There were 10% fewer decisions made in 2022 than in 2019.
In 2010 46,000 people were deported. By 2021 this annual number had fallen to 9,500.
In the 2019 Home Office Report three main reasons were cited. Make your own mind up who should carry responsibility.
1. Gvmt had reduced the use of detention and the size of the detention estate
2. Gvmt made procedural changes following the Windrush scandal
3. There was a long running breakdown in data sharing between gvmt departments
Latterly Brexit with the end of the Dublin Agreement which allowed return of people to EU member states (with no mitigation plan) and the loss of EU funding for asylum and immigration activities has made the issue worse.
So from my perspective, focus if you like on the rights and wrongs of barges and the use of far flung outposts to process applications but don’t lose sight of the simple truth that the current government has spent a good few years digging a very deep hole. It’s only course of action now is that to wind people up and distract voters from their own failings.
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Are the rumours true that braverman does voluntary work evenings and weekends at her local abattoir?
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The question is - what can she possibly do to these ‘leftie lawyers’ when she finds them??
They're providing asylum for the people who want to go to those countries.At the risk of stating the obvious in what is clearly an emotional topic, these (overwhelmingly young men) are not supposed to be migrants, they’re supposed to be people seeking asylum protection in the Uk that Greece, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Sweden, Finland, Belgium, Switzerland apparently could not provide them.
Same old - you're just glad we haven't got a border with unsafe countries.
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Fallen for the dodgy lawyer bit?Get a grip! Jesus Christ
Edit: aren’t the lawyers for the immigrants claiming they are too scared of water to be housed on the Bibby?
We are being had.
Turns out there was only a handful of these last year yet we’re told it’s widespread.
Tories doing what they do best, distract from the real issues and bait those who can‘t see past the lies.