Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

[roubaixtuesday]

Only decision they could have arrived at, really. Not sure who was advising the government but they are absolute fucking charlatans.

Govt policy on this is perfectly rational.

1. Conflicts in Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine and now Palestine mean there will be rising numbers of refugees to the UK, regardless as the what the government does.

2. Immigration is unpopular with a significant slice of the population.

3. Being unpleasant to immigrants is popular with a proportion of those.

4. Investing in policies like Rwanda to demonstrate that they hate refugees just like the people in (3) is worthwhile, regardless that it is doomed to failure for both legal and practical reasons (nobody ever expected any more than tiny proportion to ever be sent there).

5. Exacerbating the problems actually helps govt, as it keeps their nastiness in the news.

6. Being found illegal helps them, because it sets up an external enemy (judges! European judges!!) to blame.


TL;DR: Stoking division is much easier than solving problems.

 

[domalino]

Only decision they could have arrived at, really. Not sure who was advising the government but they are absolute fucking charlatans.

Pretty sure that HMG got entirely realistic advice on the merits of the appeal, but decided to run it anyway.

It really shows how good a Lawyer Braverman was, she wasn't

Reading the full judgement it’s immediately obvious even to the layman that there was only ever going to be one outcome here.


It’s basically Rooney vs Vardy. Everyone knew R. Vardy was going to lose from the moment proceedings began; the sole aim was the publicity.

The problem is the ERG etc. aren’t just after a Netflix series and a book deal serialised in the Mail on Sunday.

 

[johnnytapia]

Reading the full judgement it’s immediately obvious even to the layman that there was only ever going to be one outcome here.


It’s basically Rooney vs Vardy. Everyone knew R. Vardy was going to lose from the moment proceedings began; the sole aim was the publicity.

The problem is the ERG etc. aren’t just after a Netflix series and a book deal serialised in the Mail on Sunday.

The ERG don’t need a Netflix series ‘cos they’re on telly every fucking night. And they don’t need a book serialised’cos they’re in the Daily fucking Mail every twatting day.

 

[mcfcphil]

Only decision they could have arrived at, really. Not sure who was advising the government but they are absolute fucking charlatans.

The Government has won, in the context of defeat being the outcome they wanted.

 

[blueinsa]

Where next then?

Siberia??

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Pretty sure that HMG got entirely realistic advice on the merits of the appeal, but decided to run it anyway.

Been there, done that!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Reading the full judgement it’s immediately obvious even to the layman that there was only ever going to be one outcome here.

Judgment.

 

[Phil1]

Where next then?

Siberia??

I hear the Scottish highlands are where all the wrong’uns are sent these days… :-)

 

[domalino]

Judgment.

You're probably right, however:​

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"In law, a judgment, also spelled judgement, is a decision of a court regarding the rights and liabilities of parties in a legal action or proceeding."​

 

[Phil1]

Ooh, this could be good. I like it when two of BM big hitters disagree over a spelling.
Might hang about… :-)