Summer Transfers

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

another poster upstairs makes a good point about our need to always spend big money ( 100m or 200m) every summer to solve our solutions. i think long term spending that much can't be the answer or changing nearly half the team, we need to start promoting youth or the manager needs to adapt to the players we have. we need to buy players this summer, but after that i think pep and city need to stop spending as much. just my opinion though and you could argue we have to spend 100m to compete...

 

[CityFan94]

another poster upstairs makes a good point about our need to always spend big money ( 100m or 200m) every summer to solve our solutions. i think long term spending that much can't be the answer or changing nearly half the team, we need to start promoting youth or the manager needs to adapt to the players we have. we need to buy players this summer, but after that i think pep and city need to stop spending as much. just my opinion though and you could argue we have to spend 100m to compete...

I completely agree, but our recruitment has been so horrendous in the last 4/5 years that we need another big summer.

Bravo should have solved the goalkeeper issue, but we still need another goalkeeper.

£120 million on three centre backs (Stones, Mangala and Otamendi) should have absolutely nailed that position down, yet Kolarov had been our best centre back this season.

We haven't signed a full back under 25 for years and we're now in the position where all four full backs are over 30.

Fernandinho, Fernando and Delph were signed and we're still short on at least two centre midfielders.

Naval and Nolito have arrived, a back-up winger to Sane & Sterling is still required.

That's not even starting on the likes of Nastasic, Savic, Rodwell and Bony.

It's frightening how much money we've wasted since the title win in 2012. Absolutely frightening.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

another poster upstairs makes a good point about our need to always spend big money ( 100m or 200m) every summer to solve our solutions. i think long term spending that much can't be the answer or changing nearly half the team, we need to start promoting youth or the manager needs to adapt to the players we have. we need to buy players this summer, but after that i think pep and city need to stop spending as much. just my opinion though and you could argue we have to spend 100m to compete...

Barca and Real for example spend big cash every season despite having really good squads. No chance after next summer City will stop spending, because others will not either.

Even Bayern too spend some money as well, despite being stacked in every position.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Barca and Real for example spend big cash every season despite having really good squads. No chance after next summer City will stop spending, because others will not either.

Even Bayern too spend some money as well, despite being stacked in every position.

im not saying we should stop spending. we have to keep buying players especially if they are top quality, but we seem to be relying on it so much. i just dont think long term its a good solution. perhaps we should be looking at spending money more wisely, for example looking at cheaper alternatives that we can grow into world class players like we did with kompany. changing 6 or 7 players in the first team i can't see beign good for us either. this summer we probably need to though tbf.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I completely agree, but our recruitment has been so horrendous in the last 4/5 years that we need another big summer.

Bravo should have solved the goalkeeper issue, but we still need another goalkeeper.

£120 million on three centre backs (Stones, Mangala and Otamendi) should have absolutely nailed that position down, yet Kolarov had been our best centre back this season.

We haven't signed a full back under 25 for years and we're now in the position where all four full backs are over 30.

Fernandinho, Fernando and Delph were signed and we're still short on at least two centre midfielders.

Naval and Nolito have arrived, a back-up winger to Sane & Sterling is still required.

That's not even starting on the likes of Nastasic, Savic, Rodwell and Bony.

It's frightening how much money we've wasted since the title win in 2012. Absolutely frightening.

absolutley mate we've wasted a lot of money recently especially at the back.

 

[simon23]

i think we need a minimum of at least two centre halves - Kolarov is not good enough long term and needs to be got rid of (he has outstayed his welcome for me) and neither is Ottomendi in certain aspects of his play...then there is the problem of Kompany's fitness - so minimum two are needed.

Fullbacks - we need at least one starting fullback on each side......the only one i would retain is zabba (and only as a back up)

A goal keeper is an absolute must. Bravo is shocking and Willy out of contract......Both should be out the door but Bravo first

If Yaya leaves we have a huge gulf to fill and i think we should be doing this anyway EVEN if he stays as neither fernando or delph are good enough and should be sold.

I dont think we need anyone upfront at all....unless Kelechi goes, then we could bring in another youngster (or promote from he youth team?)

Out the door should be navas as well

God knows what will happen to Nolito as he clearly isn't floating Pep's boat at present (possibly also due sot the success of Sane as well)

 

[ojeme]

If we go into next season with that CB pairing I'm gonna shoot somebody.

well everyone to his opinion but I'm sincerely much more concerned about what's before and around them. Lots of people clamouring for Bonucci but forget that over the years Juve's defensive strengths have been largely down to midfield marshalls that take a helluva shit leaving the CBs to deal the remnant

 

[Rich71]

So now that tedious transfer window is closed we can focus on our real targets for the summer. I know it's early and some of you will moan but I need my speculation fix haha. I'm expecting 2/3 full backs, a keeper, a centre half, a midfielder and possibly another attacker depending on if Aguero leaves. Here's a list of realistic targets who I can see being brought in;
Full Backs - Henrichs, Bernat or Grimaldo
Keeper - Rui Patricio or Pickford (with us bringing back Rulli when his clause can be activated)
Centre Half - Laporte or Van Dijk
Midfielder - Koke or Weigl
Attacker - Aubamayang or Sanchez

Thoughts blues? Who can you see us targeting?

Keeper - Pickford (Has proved he is decent in a dreadful team)
Fullbacks - Bellerin and Bertrand - Both needed as all out full backs are past it
Midfielder - Koke or Kroos
Attacker - Aubameyang but would rather have Sergio but don't think Pep will keep him

 

[The Riot Club]

I completely agree, but our recruitment has been so horrendous in the last 4/5 years that we need another big summer.

Bravo should have solved the goalkeeper issue, but we still need another goalkeeper.

£120 million on three centre backs (Stones, Mangala and Otamendi) should have absolutely nailed that position down, yet Kolarov had been our best centre back this season.

We haven't signed a full back under 25 for years and we're now in the position where all four full backs are over 30.

Fernandinho, Fernando and Delph were signed and we're still short on at least two centre midfielders.

Naval and Nolito have arrived, a back-up winger to Sane & Sterling is still required.

That's not even starting on the likes of Nastasic, Savic, Rodwell and Bony.

It's frightening how much money we've wasted since the title win in 2012. Absolutely frightening.

Absolutely agree with everything you've written there. The shocking thing is, almost all of us fans could have identified better players than those we actually bought, and it's been obvious for a couple of seasons that the full backs aren't getting any better. Makes you wonder what the point of our scouts is.

 

[The Riot Club]

well everyone to his opinion but I'm sincerely much more concerned about what's before and around them. Lots of people clamouring for Bonucci but forget that over the years Juve's defensive strengths have been largely down to midfield marshalls that take a helluva shit leaving the CBs to deal the remnant

I think that's a great point. I bet if we had David Luiz and Cahill, they'd look shit with no protection. We need a Kante type player, not everyone in the team can be expected to ping 40 yard passes and dribble at pace, we're a team, or meant to be, where at least one guy should be able to tackle and cut out the opponents passes and through balls.

There must be a high energy, high quality defensive midfielder available from somewhere? I don't see much European football now, are there any in Germany, Spain, Italy, etc we could buy in summer?

 

[Serg10Aguero]

Our recruiting has seriously been shit, we still rely on the old guard.

 

[pee dubya]

I can't remember where i saw it, but there was a story that Pep was not impressed by our recruitment either and would be looking to take a more active role in it from now on than he would normally.

When you desperately need a goal in a knockout tie and the manager only makes 1 out of 3 subs, it's clear you have a problem with your squad depth.

well everyone to his opinion but I'm sincerely much more concerned about what's before and around them. Lots of people clamouring for Bonucci but forget that over the years Juve's defensive strengths have been largely down to midfield marshalls that take a helluva shit leaving the CBs to deal the remnant

Totally agree, yes our central defenders could be better, but our defensive system relies on winning the ball back quickly, requiring a quick press. When you're not able to rotate players without a massive drop off in quality, to maintain that style of play just isn't possible. Drop off in energy levels makes it that much easier for the opposition to play through and attack the defence directly. Our weakness at full-back just makes it worse.

 

[Manchester_lalala]

well everyone to his opinion but I'm sincerely much more concerned about what's before and around them. Lots of people clamouring for Bonucci but forget that over the years Juve's defensive strengths have been largely down to midfield marshalls that take a helluva shit leaving the CBs to deal the remnant

It's hard to say if bonucci would look shit in our team. When kompany plays the odd game, we look solid at the back. Need a player who's a leader as well as good defender. Bringing a quality centre back needs to be done this summer. Fuck otamendi off, can't trust him.

 

[kun]

Ideally we would want (in order of importance):
A quality leader at CB (Bonucci, Pique, Alderweireld, Laporte etc)
Between 2 and 4 highly functional fullbacks (Rose, Grimaldo, Bernat, Kimmich, Henrichs, Fabinho, Mendy etc)
A deep lying playmaker (Weigl, Paredes, Kroos, Busquets, Dahoud)
A good sweeper keeper (Ederson)
Another quick, talented forward who can play across the front line (Coman, Mbappé, Dybala, Sanchez)
A tough defensive midfielder (Carvalho, Kessie)
A "plan b" striker (Llorente, Gomez)
A younger silva-type (Bernardo Silva, Isco)

However that's way too much of an overhaul. I don't see any top class regista types being available, but we have Gündogan, Fernandinho and Garcia coming through. Isco seems like a top target so I see that being a deal of opportunity to get such a top quality young player at a reasonable price. Another forward would be necessary if Agüero leaves, otherwise we could definitely make do with Kun/Gabriel/Sané/Sterling/Nolito + one (or 2) of our talented youngsters (Ünal, Moreno, Roberts, Sancho). We NEED to inject a bit more quality in to our defence, personally would like to see Sagna stay another year and Kolarov go it looks like it may be the other way around. We need a top top quality centre-back, Bonucci would be perfect although how likely he is to leave Juve is uncertain.

Bonucci
Kimmich/Fabinho
Rose
Henrichs
Ederson
Isco

That would be an excellent window for me.

 

[kun]

 

[ojeme]

It's hard to say if bonucci would look shit in our team. When kompany plays the odd game, we look solid at the back. Need a player who's a leader as well as good defender. Bringing a quality centre back needs to be done this summer. Fuck otamendi off, can't trust him.

I absolutely respect your viewpoint and let me say I am a huge fan of Bonucci. No he wouldn't look lost in our team; I for one do not think he'll do badly here. (Well you cannot say for sure which is why football is the beautiful game)

Point I'm making is that if I had the chance to sign Bonucci with limited funds that I would've used to buy Isco or Sanchez at cut prices given their current situation, I'd go for the latter. I could even improvise and give Dinho a nod at RCB but I wouldn't pass up the opportunity. He may have shown bad behaviour recently but nobody'seems perfect. This is my very humble opinion ofrom course

 

[Damocles]

Have seen those stories for two years and they're always bollocks.

And these posts asking for 8 new first team players are delusional.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I thought we tried to get Bonucci last summer and we couldn't get him? Why would be come this summer? Same with Laporte.

 

[Akiva]

Have seen those stories for two years and they're always bollocks.

And these posts asking for 8 new first team players are delusional.

Are they? We got 6 new first team players last summer and Pep has already alluded to the overhaul, particularly in defence, multiple times. 8 doesn't seem so far fetched at all.

Moraes
Fabinho
Bonucci
Laporte
Bernat
Weigl
Isco
Llorente/Sanchez

 

[Armaan]

Sad bit is 6 new players is still probably too less! There's about 12 players we need to get rid of and replace.