kippax casual said:Yeah but they couldn't talk about working hard could they, because all they are doing at the moment is going through the motions
moomba said:kippax casual said:Yeah but they couldn't talk about working hard could they, because all they are doing at the moment is going through the motions
I'd love to see stats on the amount of distance covered by our players, I suspect Robinho would be down in the last month but he is clearly suffering with injury. I think Elano would surprise a few. I know ProZone do some good stats including intensity and the like, not sure if anything like that is publically available.
kippax casual said:I don't think that Elano or Robinho would be anywhere near to Ireland, Wright Phillips Zaba, Garrido Vassell Kompany, I could probably continue. Yes opta do stats but statistics can also be very misleading I have eyes in my head and these two are clearly not interested.
That's one of the best paragraphs I've ever seen on here. Well said mate.Brucie Bonus said:Sven couldn't motivate these players. Trying to save Sven's job couldn't motivate them. The money doesn't motivate them. The fans don't motivate them. Hughes can't motivate them. The thought of trying to save their jobs Jan or Summer doesn't motivate them. The thought of playing out of their skins to attract interest from elsewhere even if they go doesn't seem to motivate them. Their team-mates can't seem to motivate them.
And of course there's that one player in particular, who played maybe four good games before succumbing to "injury", is always "two weeks" from a comeback, who in reality doesn't even look fit enough to take the field. And his reward? A bumper five-year extension.Prestwich_Blue said:That's one of the best paragraphs I've ever seen on here. Well said mate.Brucie Bonus said:Sven couldn't motivate these players. Trying to save Sven's job couldn't motivate them. The money doesn't motivate them. The fans don't motivate them. Hughes can't motivate them. The thought of trying to save their jobs Jan or Summer doesn't motivate them. The thought of playing out of their skins to attract interest from elsewhere even if they go doesn't seem to motivate them. Their team-mates can't seem to motivate them.
These players are paid fortunes to do a job that we would do for nothing. Yet some of them can't be bothered getting off their arses and putting in a shift. It's "training's too hard". We've got about six or seven players that are prepared to step up and be counted and a whole lot more that are just prepared to turn up, be mediocre, take their 20 or 30k and go home again.
We've had far too many of these over the last few years - Dabo, Miller, Samaras, Corradi, Sinclair, Jordan, McManaman, Fowler, Reyna, Sibierski, Mills, etc. No wonder players like James, Cole, Barton and Distin got pissed off (and I'm no fan of Barton but you could never accuse him of not turning up). I'm quite happy to have a manager that knows a waster when he sees one.
Brucie Bonus said:What would have been the response if Hughes had said this? Something like this: "Typical excuses, he just wants a Blackburn style side, all huff and no ability, blaming it on the players when it's his tactics, substitutions, and losing the dressing room which has been proven withoutashadowofadoubtcoseveryonekeepsreapetingitsoitmustbetrue"?
No.
SWEEP says it, well, it's gospel. Who signed Sweep? Hadn't Sweep been at Chelsea for a few weeks? Perhaps he knows what a winning side does for basics? Robinho talks about "winning mentality" and no one knows if it's okay to take him to task, and if it is, how far to go...but if Hughes had said such things, different response I think.
It's personal with Hughes isn't it?
Sven couldn't motivate these players. Trying to save Sven's job couldn't motivate them. The money doesn't motivate them. The fans don't motivate them. Hughes can't motivate them. The thought of trying to save their jobs Jan or Summer doesn't motivate them. The thought of playing out of their skins to attract interest from elsewhere even if they go doesn't seem to motivate them. Their team-mates can't seem to motivate them.
Bloody hell, and I'm actually ambivalent about Hughes! His supporters ought to pulling their hair out at some of the winking that's being going at at PLAYER failures and laying it at his desk.
Seems Sweep and Kompany are motivated. Why is that? Character? Ireland seems motivated. What can explain this? Hughes? Character? Bit of both? Are these three "typical" Hughes cloggers we hear so much about? Is Zab motivated? Garrido is looking much better than last season. Is he motivated?