Prestwich_Blue said:Most of the people invited to joing would presumably have qualified for tickets anyway. So why pay £2500 up front for the privilege of getting something ypu would get regardless?
Like the way they handled the Family Stand (and eventually admitted it) the club have dropped a bollock here. The thing that would worry me is that they start selling these packages to new fans who can afford it, squeezing out the real hardcore loyal fans who can't.
jollycity said:Surely it's worth £2500 just for a lovely black card?
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And the right to wave it under the nose of your pleb mates !
Obviously, I won't be having one !
fathellensbellend said:GStar said:fathellensbellend said:and they have to pay an extra 50 quid for their platinum season ticket to in effect take a backward step.
next year, there will be loads moaning about how they paid extra for their season ticket, and still didnt qualify for any of the big games, the whole thing has been designed to create a mythical scramble for tickets, and yes many will fall for it, but anyone with a semblance of a brain can see this for what it is.
I can't see it being a backward step, a fraction of a percent may pass you, but being a Platinum member would mean no one else would catch you should you go to the same amount of games as this year.
I can't see currently how the SUperbia ticket is value at all - there needs to be some kind of benefit i.e free travel with the team to European away games. Something that gives the suporter value for money in order to make them feel like their loyalty and continued attendence has paid off.
The other thing for me which makes no sense is that, £50 for what could be the chance to earn nearly 2k loyalty points next year, makes little sense.
ok, i will cut to the chase, next year platinum members are offered the chance to join the waiting list to join superbia, which to my mind means they are aiming at selling a certain number, that number will obviously be in the hundreds.
so if we get a team with a 500 allocation, then superbia members will get all the tickets, and those who have the loyalty points but not in superbia will be overlooked due to there being no tickets available.
to say we wont get a team with a small away end is naive it has happened a number of times in the europa already.
if you cannot afford superbia, but have always qualified in the past for tickets, then there is a very real danger you will miss out in the future, and that to my mind is wrong, because we have ALL been accumaulating points for a decade or so, with the club using loyalty points as bait for big games, or small allocation games, the goalposts have been shifted, and money not loyalty is the motivation.
This I'm afraid is just rubbish, this is nothing to do with FFP or Platini.tmouseman said:It needs to happen as we all said this is a product of EUFA pair play rule.
If you keep the prices low you will never break even and so fall foul of the EPP.
If we need to blame anyone blame Plattini.
This I'm afraid is just rubbish, this is nothing to do with FFP or Platini.
Even if 700 take the package at £2500 its £1.75m, only about half of that will come to City, as it covers all away tickets, which have to be paid for by the club to the home team. The only way we make much out of it as a club, is if we go out at the first hurdle of every cup competition, not exactly the clubs goal.
Add to that the other 35000 season card holders ALL going platinum (very unlikely), and you gain another £1.75m.
Even if you take both sums as money into City's bank account its £3.5m in total.
If we buy another Tevez it will cost £40m, at least TEN times what the extra revenue from the membership gives the club.
The main revenue for the club comes from TV money from the PL (around £50m), and the CL (a conservative £30-50m, depending on how far we go), so £80-100m in total, which makes the extra money from the membership schemes insignificant, though they will increase that portion of revenue obviously.
The membership schemes are designed to sell loyalty for cash, that is all, and its wrong.
Why do the club want this ? Well a successful City will be supported by a richer more corporate fan, who will spend much more AT THE CLUB per head than a welder from Moston, and as much as people bury their heads in the sand, the club want these fans more than it wants the working class fan, because they spend more around the club. They will then reward their "loyalty" by making sure they have the best tickets available for games away, where they can also sell corporate packages (revenue into the club) with a match ticket.
shadygiz said:jollycity said:Surely it's worth £2500 just for a lovely black card?
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And the right to wave it under the nose of your pleb mates !
Obviously, I won't be having one !
i did a quick estimate on how much someone would spend by taking up the platinum ST and joining all the schemes, as well as buying all domestic league away tickets.
i estimate you are looking at around £3.5k to get the same deal as superbia on the platinum scheme
That wasn't the point I was making. City need to increase all revenue streams, I said that in there, but they will target the areas they can make significant progress in, these memberships are not that area, they will increase significantly in % terms, but in actual revenue into the clubs its small change, compared to TV money, sponsorship, and like it or not the prawn sandwich corporate area, where we are so far behind some of our competitors its laughable. Last year I think it was stated that on match day we have 2500 corporate sales, while united have 25000. If each spend £200 per match that is a difference of £4.5m per match !Chick Counterfly said:I'll use that argument the next time I want marshmallows with my coffee but don't feel like paying for them. I mean, what is 35p against the cost of running the store?