Tax cuts

The obvious tax to cut would be the freeze on personal allowances which means even the basic state pension is likely to be above the tax income tax threshold in a couple of years.
However it wouldn't be a vote winner as so many people don't seem to know about it in the first place.
 
What gets me, is the Tories crash the economy with Brexit and being incompetent, every time they get in. Then it’s ordinary working people who have to pay for their economic failures. Austerity isn’t a thing to the well off. It is to working class people. Taxation shouid be increased to all the rich, corporations, billionaires and let them get us through this as the working class held the line during the pandemic. But, here we are with that Tory bastard Starmer willing to make cuts and not tax those with the gold. If the coward brought in the tax we have in Scotiand for high earners, that £18b hole is filled. He will be in for one term and then it’s back to another decade run by those Tory fucking vermin.

I didn`t hear Sunak once mention Brexit as being a major cause of this country`s fucking horrendous financial mess we are currently in, mostly brought about by that lying shower of fuckwits Johnson, Gove, 7 times out of 7 unelected Nigel Farage and others. I have heard the the war in the Ukraine and and Covid are the only reasons why we are in this fucking mess.
 
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I didn`t hear Sunak once mention Brexit as being a major cause of this country`s fucking horrendous financial mess we are currently. mostly brought about by that lying shower of fuckwits Johnson, Gove, 7 times out of 7 unelected Nigel Farage and other. I have heard the the war in the Ukraine and and Covid are the only reasons why we are in this fucking mess.
Well, they are a shower of despicable, lying cunts. They blame everything apart from themselves.
 
Need to stop cunts like Radcliffe earning billions, living abroad to not pay tax, and still do business in this country.
Never understand why, if you earn so much money that you'll never spend it all that you want to dodge tax. Greedy cunts.


If you or companies earn any money in the country you should be forced to pay taxes on it.
 
I'm not supportive of tax cuts for any group because we should pay fair amounts but governments also must be responsible with our money. Labour and the Tories have burnt through our money over the last 20 years, they've sent us to war, we had the 2008 crash and then we had COVID.

What has really happened is they've spent trillions and trillions on everything except public services. They spent £300bn during COVID, they spent £130bn bailing the banks out in 2008, they funded tax cuts through increased borrowing. We will soon pay tens of billions to send a handful of migrants to Rwanda and we're already paying £100bn for a railway system that nobody wants or needs. All of this spending comes at a cost to everything else.

As growth has flatlined over the years they've funded all of this spending through borrowing which has increased our national debt and then they've printed money. Printing money has collapsed our currency to the point that today the £ is 50% weaker than the dollar versus 15 years ago prior to 2008.

In Europe they haven't done these things, they spend a huge amount more money on infrastructure and they haven't borrowed crazy amounts. This is why countries like Germany pay similar tax and yet their national debt is nearly half of ours and everything is brand new and works!

When you consider all of the above, how anybody can argue to pay even more tax is beyond me, tax is not the problem.
 
The top 10% of earners contribute 60% of all income tax receipts, so I would say that people on the top rate do actually pay their tax.

I certainly do, only a couple of days ago I sold £100k worth of shares and I'll be paying my 10% tax that's due on it shortly. Thank god I don't have to pay 40% tax on it like everyone else, that would be eyewatering
 
I'm not supportive of tax cuts for any group because we should pay fair amounts but governments also must be responsible with our money. Labour and the Tories have burnt through our money over the last 20 years, they've sent us to war, we had the 2008 crash and then we had COVID.

What has really happened is they've spent trillions and trillions on everything except public services. They spent £300bn during COVID, they spent £130bn bailing the banks out in 2008, they funded tax cuts through increased borrowing. We will soon pay tens of billions to send a handful of migrants to Rwanda and we're already paying £100bn for a railway system that nobody wants or needs. All of this spending comes at a cost to everything else.

As growth has flatlined over the years they've funded all of this spending through borrowing which has increased our national debt and then they've printed money. Printing money has collapsed our currency to the point that today the £ is 50% weaker than the dollar versus 15 years ago prior to 2008.

In Europe they haven't done these things, they spend a huge amount more money on infrastructure and they haven't borrowed crazy amounts. This is why countries like Germany pay similar tax and yet their national debt is nearly half of ours and everything is brand new and works!

When you consider all of the above, how anybody can argue to pay even more tax is beyond me, tax is not the problem.
Much of what you say is right, but the German economy is in basket case territory. The supply side is defunct.
 
When i first started work income tax was 33% of my wages and i was happy about that as we had decent public services. You could see a Doctor, a Dentist, there were libraries and youth clubs, the roads were decent to drive on, potholes were rare. local government had money to spend on essential services like mental health provision etc etc.

Tax cuts are always proclaimed by the Tories as giving you more money in your pocket, which is fair, but if you get an extra quid in your pocket a week from the cut whilst a person earning a Million gets lots more quids in their pocket how is that fair?

Tories also like to use the Laffer curve as a reason why taxation on the rich does not work.

The Laffer Curve states that if tax rates are increased above a certain level, then tax revenues can actually fall because higher tax rates discourage people from working, Ergo lower taxes mean you will slave your arse off working for a crap company paying you minimum wage.

Laffer though was a fucking idiot, a discredited economist, he took no account of the tax paying base and its based on everyone paying a single tax rate.

There has never been a conclusive study that demonstrates a connection between lowered tax rates on the wealthy and GDP growth or increased tax receipts. During the 1940s and the 1970s, the top marginal tax rate was anywhere between 70 percent and 94 percent. In this same period, we experienced the largest GDP growth our country has ever seen, and we were able to invest in the future of our children, economy and environment.


After the 1980s, when the top marginal tax rate began its steady decline, we haven’t seen nearly the GDP gains that we saw during our post-World War II boom.

Why then, here is the question.


Do you support tax cuts?

I don’t support tax cuts, I do support unfreezing the bands and making them rise with inflation, but my biggest bug bear at the moment is that the “top rate” of tax is NOT the top rate. Over the last 20 years we’ve evolved this non-sensical system where the upper middle actually takes on the biggest burden. And let me be clear I’m not advocating feeling sorry for people who ultimately have very comfortable lifestyles but my problem with it is that this is being used as a shield to reduce the emphasis on taxing the super rich adequately.

At the moment if you earn £100,000 you are earning a very good salary for sure. But if you are in your 30s and have student loans, a graduate loan, and with personal allowance clawback, your effective marginal rate is approaching 80% for every penny earned between £100k and about £125k. Eighty. Percent. If you’re earning £300k your effective rate goes down to 45%. Nearly half. Make it make sense. The super rich are paying less in income tax than those on £100k, not because of tax avoidance or anything sophisticated but because that is government policy.

And those people are targeted for good reason. For one, nobody feels sorry for them. Secondly, they often don’t have quite a high enough income to take part in tax avoidance schemes so they just have to take it. But what this does in practice is harvest tax from people in this bracket to offset the lack of tax collected from those who earn well in excess of this bracket.

I’ve been saying for ages now. Get rid of this stupid policy. Reform the tax brackets. Unfreeze them. Tier them properly so the ones earning the most pay the most, instead of this undulating mess we have now. It’s politically inconvenient but I would happily pay 60% as long as it was fair and tiered like it’s supposed to be and delivered the services this country needs.

I also want to stress people earning £100k a year might not be struggling but they’re also not necessarily wealthy people. Particularly those who have come from working class backgrounds and gone on to get high paying jobs. This 80% nonsense is another difference maker between the haves and have nots that ultimately reduces social mobility.
 

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