Teams are figuring out Possession high line football

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Oleole123

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There is a trend a Europe that teams are figuring out how to play against such teams .

Hertha Berlin showed today against Bayern Munich. Win Second Ball and then diagonal long balls in behind with a fast player and done.

Then Tottenham and Aston Villa also did the same. Win Second Ball and pass to the wing and then long ball in the spaces, Goal.

And that's how exactly how we are leaking goals.
 
It's an easy system to negate - highly trained athletes, don't need to be top line football players, with a modicum of space who keep to the simple instructions they've been given. The best example is MCWFC - the possession revolves around a continuum of passes which pose little threat, and as long as the opposition keep their 'shape' it will only be individual talent that breaks down the massed ranks. The only variable is the ball - thank the fuck it's spherical. I can't imagine the dross we'd have to watch if it were a cube.
 
Villa held their width and the first ball was always to a runner out wide, they knew Liverpool would have their full backs high up the pitch.
Wolves did it to us last season, kept wide players wide and our full backs didn't know whether to stick or twist.
 
Arteta seems to have sussed this out at Arsenal. He's playing more pragmatically and getting results with a less talented squad than ours or Liverpool's. That's why they beat us in the fa cup. Pep needs to adapt instead of rolling out the mantra he will never change. We lost nine league games last season, one already this season and probably got away with one against Wolves and to a lesser extent Leeds. Leicester hit five against us and Villa seven against Liverpool and it could have been ten. They were shellshocked yesterday and had no answer. With our talent upfront we will always score goals if we don't leave ourselves wide open to simple balls over the top and diagonally we should win more.
 
It's not the high line which is the problem, it's the quality & judgement of the players operating it & the quality of the pressing in front of it.

Last season Liverpool did both very well & had a lot of good fortune when they got it wrong. They tended to drop off, if there was no pressure on the ball & Van Dijk would just sweep it up, as Vinny often did, for us.

Since the restart in August, Van Dijk in particular has not been as sharp & Gomez is looking like he has the potential to be their Garcia (who is fucking useless at both playing offside & at dropping off & dumps everyone in the shit)

Bayern's defence was utter dogshit in the Champions League but people missed, so they won. If that continues they can get away with it forever. If not, they have a big problem.

We used to be fine playing a high line, when we had proper defenders. People tried all of the same passes then & we covered it by not always just playing a rigid offside trap.

A rigid offside trap doesn't work in a high line or anywhere else. It's dumb.
 
paulchapo said:
Arteta seems to have sussed this out at Arsenal. He's playing more pragmatically and getting results with a less talented squad than ours or Liverpool's. That's why they beat us in the fa cup. Pep needs to adapt instead of rolling out the mantra he will never change. We lost nine league games last season, one already this season and probably got away with one against Wolves and to a lesser extent Leeds. Leicester hit five against us and Villa seven against Liverpool and it could have been ten. They were shellshocked yesterday and had no answer. With our talent upfront we will always score goals if we don't leave ourselves wide open to simple balls over the top and diagonally we should win more.
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His way is fantastic play like the first 30mins at Leeds for 90mins we wouldn’t lose any games.
 
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