Terrorist attack on asylum centre

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When Nick Ferrari seems reasonable, you know that the caller is a nutter.


Indeed what a fruitloop.

Fancy wanting to use Great White sharks, when everyone knows Tiger sharks are more likely to attack humans.
 
Genuine refugees need our help, but If you want to work here (economic migrant) come here legally. A huge number of people arriving on boats are not refugees and are abusing the system. We absolutely don’t need that and clearly can’t cope with it - refugees are now permanently living in hotels as there aren’t enough houses for them or local people.
They could apply for a mortgage.
 
I've always found this argument utterly fucking baffling.

The glaringly obvious is that most don't arrive here; relative to the rest of Europe we have very few arriving on our shores.

The other glaringly obvious thing is that those that do make the journey here aren't stopping in other countries en route because the UK is their intended destination.

If you jump on a train from Manchester with the intention to go to London, you ain't gonna get off in Birmingham even though the train is stopping there.
Because that would be idiotic if your intended destination is London.
It’s an argument normally made by old people who have a backward world view. Gray rarely disappoints.
 
Did they not fancy stopping in any of the dozens of countries they passed through on their quest to find the land of plenty?

So do you think we should only ever accept French, Irish, Norwegian and Dutch refugees?

This is the second part of the sentence people never say when they suggest we shouldn’t take people who have been through another safe country, world geography means we’d never accept anyone by this standard.
 
Your completely ignoring the numbers of people now compared to say 100 years ago/ 50 years ago. Even in the 90s immigration was nowhere near the hundreds of thousands we see now. Infrastructure could actually cope and communities could properly integrate.

Ireland is a very unique example being so close to the uk - literally and culturally.

It’s in the last 10-15 years immigration levels have been very high compared to any other point.

There is no comparison to the US. Other countries in Europe perhaps

Genuine refugees need our help, but If you want to work here (economic migrant) come here legally. A huge number of people arriving on boats are not refugees and are abusing the system. We absolutely don’t need that and clearly can’t cope with it - refugees are now permanently living in hotels as there aren’t enough houses for them or local people.
There are no legal routes unless you are white and european..
 
How so ? Afhgans who helped us are still in country in numbers despite our promises , aside from ukraine what legal routes are there that you can apply for in country and come over legally ?
Afghan's, Gurkhas

Lady knows what's she's talking about
 
‘Long enough to admit it?’ Or perhaps they just needed time to carry out their investigation rather than seeking the opinion off some bloke on the internet.

The entire reaction to this terrorist attack has been deeply disturbing.

Until last week, I'd never seen parliament react to a terrorist attack by MP's standing up and expressing condolences to the terrorists family for his suicide.

Sir Roger Gale (con) Madam Deputy Speaker, will you allow me first to express my condolences to the families of those affected by the incident at Dover, particularly the family of the man who was responsible, who had very severe mental health difficulties? I think our thoughts ought to be with all of them.
Can you imagine anyone ever saying this about the 7/7 bombers, or Westminster Bridge terrorists?

As it turns out counter-terrorism have said right wing ideology was the motivating factor, not mental health issues.
 
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The entire reaction to this terrorist attack has been deeply disturbing.

Until last week, I'd never seen parliament react to a terrorist attack by MP's standing up and expressing condolences to the terrorists family for his suicide.

Sir Roger Gale (con) Madam Deputy Speaker, will you allow me first to express my condolences to the families of those affected by the incident at Dover, particularly the family of the man who was responsible, who had very severe mental health difficulties? I think our thoughts ought to be with all of them.
Can you imagine anyone ever saying this about the 7/7 bombers, or Westminster Bridge terrorists?

As it turns out counter-terrorism have said right wing ideology was the motivating factor, not mental health issues.
I totally agree. My point was simply for the police to declare it as a terrorism incident it had to involve some work.

TACT gives the police more powers particularly under length of detention of prisoners-that wasn’t required here-unless of course the investigation revealed links to other individuals.

Personally I’ve been appalled at Braverman and the others who have spewed their dog whistle racist bile to incite their base and divert from their own actions. They of course know full well that a good 25-30% of the population agree with it which is deeply upsetting.
 
The entire reaction to this terrorist attack has been deeply disturbing.

Until last week, I'd never seen parliament react to a terrorist attack by MP's standing up and expressing condolences to the terrorists family for his suicide.

Sir Roger Gale (con) Madam Deputy Speaker, will you allow me first to express my condolences to the families of those affected by the incident at Dover, particularly the family of the man who was responsible, who had very severe mental health difficulties? I think our thoughts ought to be with all of them.
Can you imagine anyone ever saying this about the 7/7 bombers, or Westminster Bridge terrorists?

As it turns out counter-terrorism have said right wing ideology was the motivating factor, not mental health issues.

I am not at all surprised by Gale's comments, both our tory MP's for this area are grade 1 twats.
 

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