"grow up you daft ****" would be my responseOne of the knobs at work this morning said that the Portsmouth-Sunderland game last weekend had a bigger crowd than Saturday's game.
I knew he was on the WUM, so I didn’t bite; I just replied,"I don’t care!"
As someone pointed out. Liverpool and United have a core (as we do) of supporters who go to home matches.
They both also have a legion of daytrippers and Out of towners, as confirmed by various events - Liverpool the ash cloud crowd, and the United fake bomb scare crowd.
This is due to fairly recent history (the 60's onwards for United, the 70's onwards for Liverpool) - more mobility of population looking for work, more cars etc, and of course the temptation of following a team that is winning the shiney stuff. If we continue this current period of success, then City (as mentioned by many other threads) will continue to grow the young 'new generation' of supporters, just like United, Liverpool did earlier, and Chelsea have done more recently.
I'd also say (judging from observation, rather than hard fact) that the core Liverpool support are closer to the core City support in terms of the majority demographic of match going fans - 'working class', poorer, local, than the legions of the Cheshire set that pour into Old trafford.
This money helps supporters get to the ground and away day events - obviously.
So,again, as another pointed out, it's not realistic for many of the core City fans to spend on every season multiple trips to wembley (amazing to remember the 90's...), as it's a long bloody expensive trip from Manchester for them. Compare to the matchday migration North from London for United (and to a lesser extent Liverpool), it's a doddle and far cheaper to just hop on a tube to Wembley.
In time, a generation, possibly 2, then we'd end up with the same demographic mix as United and Liverpool - spread out, richer... but hopefully (please!) not so bloody arrogant and entitled.
Agree totally. As a Liverpool supporter I have this argument with EFC fans who accuse us of out of town support. Firstly if someone travels hundreds of miles to watch his team every week I would say he is just a good supporter, end of. Also if EFC get their new stadium then the club will try to attract the same support LFC do. City emulate United, EFC are chasing us and we are chasing Man Utd in my opinion. In all this the major clubs, Chelsea Spurs as well are moving away from the local lad going the match and having a pint before the game. They want the outside fans coming once or twice a year and spending big at the club shops, the more fans the better. We supporters are all in general the same and it is sad to see the bitterness from all sides, I have nothing against anyone from Manchester, London whatever, but I do want Everton to lose every game same for the rest and I expect the same, we all want to win and we all cannot. However this is the way it is and it will never go back.As someone pointed out. Liverpool and United have a core (as we do) of supporters who go to home matches.
They both also have a legion of daytrippers and Out of towners, as confirmed by various events - Liverpool the ash cloud crowd, and the United fake bomb scare crowd.
This is due to fairly recent history (the 60's onwards for United, the 70's onwards for Liverpool) - more mobility of population looking for work, more cars etc, and of course the temptation of following a team that is winning the shiney stuff. If we continue this current period of success, then City (as mentioned by many other threads) will continue to grow the young 'new generation' of supporters, just like United, Liverpool did earlier, and Chelsea have done more recently.
I'd also say (judging from observation, rather than hard fact) that the core Liverpool support are closer to the core City support in terms of the majority demographic of match going fans - 'working class', poorer, local, than the legions of the Cheshire set that pour into Old trafford.
This money helps supporters get to the ground and away day events - obviously.
So,again, as another pointed out, it's not realistic for many of the core City fans to spend on every season multiple trips to wembley (amazing to remember the 90's...), as it's a long bloody expensive trip from Manchester for them. Compare to the matchday migration North from London for United (and to a lesser extent Liverpool), it's a doddle and far cheaper to just hop on a tube to Wembley.
In time, a generation, possibly 2, then we'd end up with the same demographic mix as United and Liverpool - spread out, richer... but hopefully (please!) not so bloody arrogant and entitled.
It looks like a good reply, but you seem to have dismissed Everton supporters accusing Liverpool of having out of towners and shiney bauble followers - which is clearly the case - in addition to the aforementioned core support.Agree totally. As a Liverpool supporter I have this argument with EFC fans who accuse us of out of town support. Firstly if someone travels hundreds of miles to watch his team every week I would say he is just a good supporter, end of. Also if EFC get their new stadium then the club will try to attract the same support LFC do. City emulate United, EFC are chasing us and we are chasing Man Utd in my opinion. In all this the major clubs, Chelsea Spurs as well are moving away from the local lad going the match and having a pint before the game. They want the outside fans coming once or twice a year and spending big at the club shops, the more fans the better. We supporters are all in general the same and it is sad to see the bitterness from all sides, I have nothing against anyone from Manchester, London whatever, but I do want Everton to lose every game same for the rest and I expect the same, we all want to win and we all cannot. However this is the way it is and it will never go back.
Thought you didn't go anymore?Agree totally. As a Liverpool supporter I have this argument with EFC fans who accuse us of out of town support. Firstly if someone travels hundreds of miles to watch his team every week I would say he is just a good supporter, end of. Also if EFC get their new stadium then the club will try to attract the same support LFC do. City emulate United, EFC are chasing us and we are chasing Man Utd in my opinion. In all this the major clubs, Chelsea Spurs as well are moving away from the local lad going the match and having a pint before the game. They want the outside fans coming once or twice a year and spending big at the club shops, the more fans the better. We supporters are all in general the same and it is sad to see the bitterness from all sides, I have nothing against anyone from Manchester, London whatever, but I do want Everton to lose every game same for the rest and I expect the same, we all want to win and we all cannot. However this is the way it is and it will never go back.
There is no smoke without fire.
Liverpool haven't had less than 33,000 at Anfield for over 25 years. City had 33,000 for their carabao cub semi final in the year they are supposed to be chasing the quadruple. To put it into perspective Liverpool's lowest attendance over the last 2 years is 47000.
The average attendance at the Etihad is normally pretty close to full capacity so I don't really agree that you can't fill your stadium. There is however a very obvious problem that your fan base is made up very particularly of people who can only motivate themselves for premier league games on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon which I believe does need to be discussed and is clearly a problem. I mean you only managed 30270 seats on a champions league night!!! To compare, there was 47.500 at Anfield to watch Liverpool beat Maribor who are an even worse team than Munchengladbach.
Lastly, when your own manager has to come out to the media and beg fans to come to the stadium because he was perplexed by so many empty seats you have to sit up and start taking notice. Stop burying your heads in the sand claiming it's all a myth then trying to claim Liverpool supporters are worse which is what the OP claimed.
You lost me at 'no smoke without fire', possibly the most asinine idiom in the English language.There is no smoke without fire.
Liverpool haven't had less than 33,000 at Anfield for over 25 years. City had 33,000 for their carabao cub semi final in the year they are supposed to be chasing the quadruple. To put it into perspective Liverpool's lowest attendance over the last 2 years is 47000.
The average attendance at the Etihad is normally pretty close to full capacity so I don't really agree that you can't fill your stadium. There is however a very obvious problem that your fan base is made up very particularly of people who can only motivate themselves for premier league games on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon which I believe does need to be discussed and is clearly a problem. I mean you only managed 30270 seats on a champions league night!!! To compare, there was 47.500 at Anfield to watch Liverpool beat Maribor who are an even worse team than Munchengladbach.
Lastly, when your own manager has to come out to the media and beg fans to come to the stadium because he was perplexed by so many empty seats you have to sit up and start taking notice. Stop burying your heads in the sand claiming it's all a myth then trying to claim Liverpool supporters are worse which is what the OP claimed.
There is no smoke without fire.
Liverpool haven't had less than 33,000 at Anfield for over 25 years. City had 33,000 for their carabao cub semi final in the year they are supposed to be chasing the quadruple. To put it into perspective Liverpool's lowest attendance over the last 2 years is 47000.
The average attendance at the Etihad is normally pretty close to full capacity so I don't really agree that you can't fill your stadium. There is however a very obvious problem that your fan base is made up very particularly of people who can only motivate themselves for premier league games on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon which I believe does need to be discussed and is clearly a problem. I mean you only managed 30270 seats on a champions league night!!! To compare, there was 47.500 at Anfield to watch Liverpool beat Maribor who are an even worse team than Munchengladbach.
Lastly, when your own manager has to come out to the media and beg fans to come to the stadium because he was perplexed by so many empty seats you have to sit up and start taking notice. Stop burying your heads in the sand claiming it's all a myth then trying to claim Liverpool supporters are worse which is what the OP claimed.
No smoke without fire, mate.Why do you care more about this subject than I do. We don't have as many fans as you do, so what? We have more premier league titles than you do though and that all I am arsed about.
Why do you care more about this subject than I do? We don't have as many fans as you do, so what? We have more premier league titles than you do though and that all I am arsed about.
There is no smoke without fire.
Liverpool haven't had less than 33,000 at Anfield for over 25 years. City had 33,000 for their carabao cub semi final in the year they are supposed to be chasing the quadruple. To put it into perspective Liverpool's lowest attendance over the last 2 years is 47000.
The average attendance at the Etihad is normally pretty close to full capacity so I don't really agree that you can't fill your stadium. There is however a very obvious problem that your fan base is made up very particularly of people who can only motivate themselves for premier league games on a Saturday/Sunday afternoon which I believe does need to be discussed and is clearly a problem. I mean you only managed 30270 seats on a champions league night!!! To compare, there was 47.500 at Anfield to watch Liverpool beat Maribor who are an even worse team than Munchengladbach.
Lastly, when your own manager has to come out to the media and beg fans to come to the stadium because he was perplexed by so many empty seats you have to sit up and start taking notice. Stop burying your heads in the sand claiming it's all a myth then trying to claim Liverpool supporters are worse which is what the OP claimed.
No smoke without fire, mate.
Randomly found, with a single google:There is no smoke without fire.
Liverpool haven't had less than 33,000 at Anfield for over 25 years.
That's a bizarre post. You've commented 3 times in this thread. That was my one and only comment. Seems you care 3 x as much as I do.
That's a bizarre post. You've commented 3 times in this thread. That was my one and only comment. Seems you care 3 x as much as I do.
Are all dippers dumb or deluded? Or both?
What a bizarre statement. Does that mean that Posters with a million posts in hundreds of threads care a million times more than those with a hundred posts?
That's a bizarre post. You've commented 3 times in this thread. That was my one and only comment. Seems you care 3 x as much as I do.