The Album Review Club - Week #145 - (page 1923) - Tellin' Stories - The Charlatans

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Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.

Blue Moon Forums - Album Review Club ScoreboardDate30/10/2024
PosNominatorWeek #Page #AlbumArtistYear#VotesAverage
1OB167815NaturallyJ.J.Cale1971148.14
2GoatersLeftShin61678RevolverThe Beatles1966187.83
3Mancitydoogle871038Live DrugsThe War On Drugs202087.75
4Gaudion M76921Cold FactRodriguez1970117.73
5BlueHammer8548492The Queen is DeadThe Smiths1986157.67
6OB1831007Live and DangerousThin Lizzy1978147.61
7threespires881043Talking With The Taxman About PoetryBilly Bragg1986107.60
8BlueHammer851271545Definitely MaybeOasis1994217.55
9BlueHammer85941111TenPearl Jam1991127.51
10BlueMoonRisin'13101611Rattus NorvegicusThe Stranglers1977217.48
11OB1570Physical GraffitiLed Zeppelin1975197.47
12Mancitydoogle1001164This is the SeaThe Waterboys1985147,46
13bennyboy51541Car Wheels on a Gravel RoadLucinda Williams1998167.44
14OB1961136Rainbow RisingRainbow1976137.42
15bennyboy1111314Some GirlsThe Rolling Stones1978147.29
16LGWIO1351719Stop Making Sense (Live)Talking Heads1984227.25
17Coatigan981149VThe Budos Band2019117.18
18Mancitydoogle1161381You're Never Alone with a SchizophrenicIan Hunter1979117.18
19Saddleworth21291598HatsThe Blue Nile1989197.15
20GoatersLeftShin891053Live at the Star ClubJerry Lee Lewis1964117.14
21mancity2012_eamo57629Viva Dead PoniesThe Fatima Mansions1990117.09
22southamptonblue44468Beautiful FreakEels1996127.08
23RobMCFC921095American ManThe Yawpers2015127.08
24bennyboy1261531All Mod ConsThe Jam1978167.06
25RobMCFC111The Lonesome JubileeJohn Cougar Mellencamp1987197.05
26FogBlueInSanFran1151369Gun-ShyThe Screaming Blue Messiahs1986147.04
27stoneblue971142Feats Don't Fail Me NowLittle Feat1974127.00
28GornikDaze1091288AbsolutionMuse2003117.00
29Journolud1141362Crossing The Red SeaThe Adverts1978126.96
30FogBlueInSanFran80979SirenRoxy Music1975146.93
31LGWIO1181399Pacific StreetThe Pale Fountains1984146.93
32BimboBob77928The Battle at Garden's GateGreta Van Fleet2021106.90
33bennyboy821001Radio CityBig Star197496.89
34Saddleworth23539210cc10cc1973166.88
35Black&White&BlueMoon Town1071273The Last BroadcastDoves2002136.88
36OB11121329RocksAerosmith1976186.87
37FogBlueInSanFran224Let It BeThe Replacements1984146.86
38threespires74901Strong PersuaderRobert Cray1986136.85
39BimboBob58639The Colour of SpringTalk Talk1986126.83
40BlueHammer85340The MasterplanOasis1998186.81
41Mancitydoogle14200SoutheasternJason Isbell2013106.80
42Bill Walker24310Bare WiresJohn Mayall's Bluesbreakers1968106.80
43threespires1341701DummyPortishead1994176.79
44Saddleworth2454Before The DawnKate Bush2014146.79
45threespires1171389Down to BelievingAllison Moorer2016146.79
46BimboBob1201413The Lexicon of LoveABC1982146.79
47Saddleworth2841016The Wild, The Innocent and the E-Street ShuffleBruce Springsteen1973136.77
48FogBlueInSanFran931102The TubesThe Tubes1975136.77
49Marklr8111FoxtrotGenesis1972206.75
50GoatersLeftShin75914What's Going OnMarvin Gaye1971146.75
51denislawsbackheel55606Flat Baroque and BerserkRoy Harper1970156.73
52GornikDaze911089Have You Lost Your Mind Yet?Fantastic Negrito202096.72
53RobMCFC63775Living With The LawChris Whitley1991146.71
54Onholiday(somemightsay)799Rage Against The MachineRage Against The Machine1992226.68
55GornikDaze1321659Black SabbathBlack Sabbath1970196.68
56Black&White&BlueMoon Town1411860JPEG RawGary Clark Jr2024156.67
57OB136402Moving PicturesRush1981236.65
58mancity2012_eamo15207Paradise in the PicturehouseThe Stunning1990116.64
59Saddleworth249513The CrossingBig Country1983156.63
60Black&White&BlueMoon Town1221438A Black Mile To The SurfaceManchester Orchestra2017136.58
61bennyboy40444Lost Songs of the ConfederacyJames King and the Lonewolves2014126.58
62Saddleworth268827Purple RainPrince1984146.57
63RobMCFC1081283Spirit TrailBruce Hornsby199886.56
64mancity2012_eamo27329Irish Tour '74Rory Gallagher1974136.54
65Journolud71875CurtainsTindersticks1997156.53
66RobMCFC16217Earth and Sun and MoonMidnight Oil1993126.50
67EDITOR'S CHOICE1231446OK ComputerRadiohead1997206.44
68KnaresboroughBlue69841Music CompleteNew Order2015146.43
69GoatersLeftShin42455HejiraJoni Mitchell1976156.40
70KnaresboroughBlue688Má VlastBedřich Smetana1874-79156.40
71bennyboy25316FuzzyGrant Lee Buffalo1993156.40
72Bill Walker9138RedKing Crimson1974176.40
73Big Joe Corrigan1441893XOElliot Smith1998146.39
74FogBlueInSanFran33372Candy-OThe Cars1979136.38
75GoatersLeftShin1021199Pocket SymphonyAir2007116.36
76southamptonblue1061264Odyssey Number FivePowderfinger2000116.36
77BimboBob38432Sule SkerryErland Cooper201996.33
78bennyboy951129Head Over HeelsCocteau Twins1983116.32
79Coatigan53577Painting of a Panic AttackFrightened Rabbit2016166.31
80southamptonblue31356Dogs at BayBad \\ Dreems2015146.29
81Coatigan1131436Clarity: Pheonix SessionsJimmy Eat World2021146.29
82bennyboy12177Southern Rock OperaDrive-By Truckers2001116.27
83Journolud861029Twelve Dreams of Dr.SardonicusSpirit1970106.20
84GoatersLeftShin1431884I Should CocoSupergrass1995176.18
85BlueHammer8565797Chasing YesterdayNoel Gallagher's High Flying Birds2015116.18
86bennyboy66809A Black and White NightRoy Orbison1989136.15
87Coatigan851025Burst and DecayThe Wonder Years201776.14
88BimboBob22287Songs of Faith and DevotionDepeche Mode1993156.13
89BimboBob1391815Musical Version of War of the WorldsJeff Wayne1978196.11
90Mancitydoogle41449Crazy on the WeekendSunhouse1998106.10
91denislawsbackheel72888Rough MixPete Townshend and Ronnie Lane1977106.10
92Journolud1371774Wet DreamRichard Wright1978156.09
93RobMCFC79972GirlfriendMatthew Sweet1991116.09
94Saddleworth219247Jordan: The ComebackPrefab Sprout1990126.08
95FogBlueInSanFran17226Welcome Interstate ManagersFountains of Wayne2003146.07
96threespires60667StandSly and the Family Stone1969146.07
97Coatigan1311633CrawlerIdles2021166.00
98OB11281587Pretty ViciousThe Struts2023146.00
99RobMCFC32364So Runs The World AwayJosh Ritter2010116.00
100Coatigan43463PuzzleBiffy Clyro2007116.00
101southamptonblue1211429Day for NightThe Tragically Hip1994116.00
102GornikDaze62739DoolittlePixies1989195.97
103GornikDaze78963DegüelloZZ Top1979145.92
104FogBlueInSanFran64792Under The Big Black SunX1982135.92
105Mancitydoogle73896Warren ZevonWarren Zevon1976115.91
106OB150525Women and Children FirstVan Halen1980185.88
107RobMCFC1251524Listen Like ThievesINXS1985175.88
108BimboBob1031209SplitThe Groundhogs1971125.88
109Mancitydoogle56621Hard StationPaul Brady1981135.85
110Mancitydoogle26323New YorkLou Reed1989145.82
111KnaresboroughBlue37425RusalkaAntonín Dvořák1900115.82
112Journolud13188Gypsy BloodDoll By Doll1979145.79
113FogBlueInSanFran47485Last SplashThe Breeders1993135.77
114Journolud23302Aldous HardingAldous Harding2014125.75
115Bill Walker45476From This PlacePat Metheny202085.75
116denislawsbackheel1051244Greatest HitsBob Seger1994155.73
117shackattack1241478The Magical World of the StrandsMichael Head & The Strands1997175.68
118Coatigan70853So Much for the AfterglowEverclear1997155.67
119Journolud991154Astral WeeksVan Morrison1968145.64
120BlueHammer8518240A Century EndsDavid Gray1993135.62
121southamptonblue1401844Lovers ElectricLovers Electric2007165.59
122Coatigan30352Given to the WildThe Maccabees201295.56
123Journolud54591American GothicDavid Ackles1972175.47
124shackattack1421874Strange TimesThe Chameleons1986145.46
125KnaresboroughBlue52559At Budokan (Live)Bob Dylan1978135.46
126Journolud39439The Magical Record of Blue OrchidsBlue Orchids2019105.40
127Mancitydoogle1331682Guitar TownSteve Earle1986145.39
128southamptonblue59650A Graveyard of Empty BottlesThe Dogs D'Amour1989135.38
129BlueHammer8534378Once (OST)Glen Hansard & Marketa Irglova2006145.36
130FogBlueInSanFran1361746The Rise And Fall Of A Midwest PrincessChappel Roan2023165.28
131RobMCFC46481King SwampKing Swamp1989155.27
132BlueHammer8581987SurrenderThe Chemical Brothers1999135.27
133GoatersLeftShin1191405People on SundayDomenique Dumont2020125.08
134GoatersLeftShin11169Planetary UnfoldingMichael Stearns1981185.00
135OB120255DestroyerKISS1976165.00
136LGWIO1041237Selected Ambient Works 85-92Aphex Twin1992155.00
137Gaudion M901060Songs of Her'sHer's201794.89
138denislawsbackheel28337Death of a Ladies' ManLeonard Cohen1977144.71
139BlueHammer851101297Endless SummerThe Midnight2016124.67
140denislawsbackheel10151The Hangman's Beautiful DaughterThe Incredible String Band1968154.52
141KnaresboroughBlue21276VoiceEyeless In Gaza1993144.50
142GoatersLeftShin29347All Possible FuturesMiami Horror2015124.33
143mrbelfry13817901956Soul-Junk1999134.28
144threespires1011181A Grand Don't Come For FreeThe Streets2004164.06

Ground rules

1. Let me know if you want to nominate an album. Don't say what the album is yet as we want a bit of mystery and anticipation.
2. A schedule of nominators will be maintained in this post so people know when their nomination is due to appear.
3. Each Tuesday, a nominator will give a review of their album and tell us why it means so much to them. You do not get to score on your own album
4. All other members score the album 1-10 (0 or less will be rounded up to 1) and comment/discuss at will.
5. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
6. Once all regular and new contributors have nominated, everybody can have a 2nd choice and we'll carry on until every album ever made has been reviewed. Or until people get bored.

Obviously I can't enforce this, but it would be nice if everybody who wants to nominate joins in reviewing and scoring other nominations.


Nominators List

Round #10

13/11/2024 RobMCFC

20/11/2024 bennyboy
27/11/2024 BlueHammer85
04/12/2024 OB1
11/12/2024 Saddleworth2

08/01/2025 BlueMoonRisin'
15/01/2025 Coatigan
22/01/2025 GornikDaze
29/01/2025 Mancitydoogle
05/02/2025 threespires
12/02/2025 LGWIO
19/02/2025 FogBlueInSanFran
26/02/2025 Journolud
05/03/2025 mrbelfry
12/03/2025 BimboBob
19/03/2025 southamptonblue
26/03/2025 Black&White&BlueMoon Town
02/04/2025 shackattack
09/04/2025 GoatersLeftShin
16/04/2025 Big Joe Corrigan
23/04/2025 Kippaxpete

New nominators for next round

None

Previous nominators not on the current list

KnaresboroughBlue
Bill Walker
Mancity2012_eamo
Marklr
Gareth Barry Conlon (aka Gaudion M)
stoneblue
denislawsbackheel
 
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Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.
I agree with @FogBlueInSanFran 's comment that this should NOT replace BlueHammer85 's excellent album thread, but should run alongside it.
Therefore I want to make continued contributions to that thread a qualifying requirement for nominating in the new thread.

With this in mind, I have come up with a list of ground rules, all of which are up for debate and modification as others see fit.

Ground rules

1. A list of nominators will be drawn up for the next phase (between 6 and 12 weeks, depending on the number of nominators available).
I will select the first list of nominators, and first nominator, based on contributions to BlueHammer's album review thread.
Members may wish to opt out of being a nominator, which is no problem - just let me know.
2. One member will select an album to review each week. They will be given one week's notice to prepare their nomination.
If a member can't participate for the selected week, we'll just re-jig the order as required.
3. A new album will appear on Tuesday - seems like a good time when posts on the original thread are running out of steam.
This day may vary, depending on holidays, but I'll try to keep it Tuesday-Monday.
4. The first task for the nominator is to select NEXT WEEK's NOMIMATOR (from the approved list) and then give their review of the album.
Maybe let us know what it means to them. Note that they will NOT cast a vote for obvious reasons.
5. Any member may vote or comment, regardless of nominator status. Voting will use the 1-5 scale (0 or less rounded up to 1).
6. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
Page 1 will also be kept up to date with the current and past nominators list.
7. Steps 2 to 6 will be repeated until the current list of nominators is empty.
8. Everybody on the current list of nominators can help decide the next list of nominators.
The exact process is tbd, but it won't be a heavyweight affair! However, regular contributions and scoring on BlueHammer85 's album review thread during the
current phase is a requirement.
9. Repeat steps 2 to 8 until we have a core list of regular contributors as nominators. At this point, members can get a 2nd album choice as we "reset" the list.
I think an ideal number would be 15-26 so that we all select 2-3 albums per year, but let's see how it goes.
10. If I suspect that the new thread is causing a decline in participation in BlueHammer85 's album review thread, I'll kill it (the new thread that is!)
The in-built participation rules will hopefully ensure that this is not the case.

Any thoughts?
Sounds complicated.
 
Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.
I agree with @FogBlueInSanFran 's comment that this should NOT replace BlueHammer85 's excellent album thread, but should run alongside it.
Therefore I want to make continued contributions to that thread a qualifying requirement for nominating in the new thread.

With this in mind, I have come up with a list of ground rules, all of which are up for debate and modification as others see fit.

Ground rules

1. A list of nominators will be drawn up for the next phase (between 6 and 12 weeks, depending on the number of nominators available).
I will select the first list of nominators, and first nominator, based on contributions to BlueHammer's album review thread.
Members may wish to opt out of being a nominator, which is no problem - just let me know.
2. One member will select an album to review each week. They will be given one week's notice to prepare their nomination.
If a member can't participate for the selected week, we'll just re-jig the order as required.
3. A new album will appear on Tuesday - seems like a good time when posts on the original thread are running out of steam.
This day may vary, depending on holidays, but I'll try to keep it Tuesday-Monday.
4. The first task for the nominator is to select NEXT WEEK's NOMIMATOR (from the approved list) and then give their review of the album.
Maybe let us know what it means to them. Note that they will NOT cast a vote for obvious reasons.
5. Any member may vote or comment, regardless of nominator status. Voting will use the 1-5 scale (0 or less rounded up to 1).
6. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
Page 1 will also be kept up to date with the current and past nominators list.
7. Steps 2 to 6 will be repeated until the current list of nominators is empty.
8. Everybody on the current list of nominators can help decide the next list of nominators.
The exact process is tbd, but it won't be a heavyweight affair! However, regular contributions and scoring on BlueHammer85 's album review thread during the
current phase is a requirement.
9. Repeat steps 2 to 8 until we have a core list of regular contributors as nominators. At this point, members can get a 2nd album choice as we "reset" the list.
I think an ideal number would be 15-26 so that we all select 2-3 albums per year, but let's see how it goes.
10. If I suspect that the new thread is causing a decline in participation in BlueHammer85 's album review thread, I'll kill it (the new thread that is!)
The in-built participation rules will hopefully ensure that this is not the case.

Any thoughts?
What you are saying I think, is that anyone that wants to nominate an album passes their name to you and you will produce a list/order for those album nominations. Anyone can vote or Bly those that have put their name forward?
 
What you are saying I think, is that anyone that wants to nominate an album passes their name to you and you will produce a list/order for those album nominations. Anyone can vote or Bly those that have put their name forward?
The initial list of nominators will those who have contributed most to the existing Top 1100 thread. Nobody needs to pass their name to me.
The way to get on that nominators list is to keep scoring and contributing to that thread
Any Blue Moon member is free to vote and comment here, regardless of their participation on the other thread.
 
The initial list of nominators will those who have contributed most to the existing Top 1100 thread. Nobody needs to pass their name to me.
The way to get on that nominators list is to keep scoring and contributing to that thread
Any Blue Moon member is free to vote and comment here, regardless of their participation on the other thread.
ok. understand. I haven't contributed that much to the thread as I haven't had much interest in the albums randomly chosen. Not a great fan of the original Colin Larkin list tbf.
 
Another music voting thread!

Several people have commented that the randomizer in @BlueHammer85 's Top 1100 album review thread isn't doing a great job of selecting albums.
Some people have suggested that we'd be better selecting the albums ourselves.
I would argue that the randomizer is doing a perfect job - it's completely random after all - but I understand the sentiment.

However, it got me thinking: given that some of us spend a lot of time on the thread, wouldn't it be nice if we were reviewing and commenting on albums that meant something to us? Even better, we could get an insight into why an album means so much to the person who selected it.
I agree with @FogBlueInSanFran 's comment that this should NOT replace BlueHammer85 's excellent album thread, but should run alongside it.
Therefore I want to make continued contributions to that thread a qualifying requirement for nominating in the new thread.

With this in mind, I have come up with a list of ground rules, all of which are up for debate and modification as others see fit.

Ground rules

1. A list of nominators will be drawn up for the next phase (between 6 and 12 weeks, depending on the number of nominators available).
I will select the first list of nominators, and first nominator, based on contributions to BlueHammer's album review thread.
Members may wish to opt out of being a nominator, which is no problem - just let me know.
2. One member will select an album to review each week. They will be given one week's notice to prepare their nomination.
If a member can't participate for the selected week, we'll just re-jig the order as required.
3. A new album will appear on Tuesday - seems like a good time when posts on the original thread are running out of steam.
This day may vary, depending on holidays, but I'll try to keep it Tuesday-Monday.
4. The first task for the nominator is to select NEXT WEEK's NOMIMATOR (from the approved list) and then give their review of the album.
Maybe let us know what it means to them. Note that they will NOT cast a vote for obvious reasons.
5. Any member may vote or comment, regardless of nominator status. Voting will use the 1-5 scale (0 or less rounded up to 1).
6. Voting will continue until the following Monday when votes will be counted and scoreboard on page 1 updated.
Page 1 will also be kept up to date with the current and past nominators list.
7. Steps 2 to 6 will be repeated until the current list of nominators is empty.
8. Everybody on the current list of nominators can help decide the next list of nominators.
The exact process is tbd, but it won't be a heavyweight affair! However, regular contributions and scoring on BlueHammer85 's album review thread during the
current phase is a requirement.
9. Repeat steps 2 to 8 until we have a core list of regular contributors as nominators. At this point, members can get a 2nd album choice as we "reset" the list.
I think an ideal number would be 15-26 so that we all select 2-3 albums per year, but let's see how it goes.
10. If I suspect that the new thread is causing a decline in participation in BlueHammer85 's album review thread, I'll kill it (the new thread that is!)
The in-built participation rules will hopefully ensure that this is not the case.

Any thoughts?
So the idea is for whomever is selected to pick a record and give their thoughts about why it was picked, but not to give it a review, yes? It doesn't necessarily have to be a record we love or hate or even one we've listened to, right?

I do think, assuming I get a slot, I'd pick records that aren't on Larkin's Top 1000 list so we get some variety and avoid repetition . . . who knows, we could be reviewing Nevermind in 2038!!! :)
 
So the idea is for whomever is selected to pick a record and give their thoughts about why it was picked, but not to give it a review, yes? It doesn't necessarily have to be a record we love or hate or even one we've listened to, right?

I do think, assuming I get a slot, I'd pick records that aren't on Larkin's Top 1000 list so we get some variety and avoid repetition . . . who knows, we could be reviewing Nevermind in 2038!!! :)
The person picking the album definitely gets to review it in as much detail as they want. I was thinking that we'd (probably) all pick our favourite albums most of the time so a 5/5 was a given, which is why I thought it would be pointless scoring it yourself. But obviously you can pick an album to annoy everybody if you so wanted.

As somebody who's reviewed and voted on every album so far, you're definitely in the first batch of nominators! ..... assuming people are happy with the system.
 

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