The Album Review Club - Week #146 - (page 1935) - Ocean Rain - Echo and the Bunnymen

I raise your 18 year old Ethiopian jazzer with a 17 year old Angolan Folkster. Actually I don't, it's not as cool, I fold and now I'm off to drag junior out of bed and tell him he needs to up his game if he wants me to keep feeding him :-)

Had a really interesting conversation last night with him and his gf about their negative reaction to this being the pick. Their points might find there way into my review even if I didn't agree with them all
I tried to get a reaction out my kids to this and they are super indifferent so will be interesting to hear opinions. Not sure if Foggy wrote about his kids opinion?

My sons tastes are quite eclectic - he just refuses to like the same things I like
 
I tried to get a reaction out my kids to this and they are super indifferent so will be interesting to hear opinions. Not sure if Foggy wrote about his kids opinion?

My sons tastes are quite eclectic - he just refuses to like the same things I like
I hope that doesn’t include your football team mate?
 
The Rise And Fall Of A Midwest Princess – Chappell Roan

After two listens, I’m going to have to call it. Not because it’s bad or I’ve had enough, but I’m off to Spain today, and I don’t want to have to type all of this out on a phone next week.

Whilst I agree with Foggy that I’m not comfortable listening to young women singing sexually explicit lyrics, I’m not convinced it’s a great thing for men or artists in general to do either. Like the best directors who can provoke emotions and convey feeling by showing just enough and cutting away at the optimum point, I think the best songwriters and performers are capable of doing the same. Still, it’s her first album and she’s trying to make a name for herself, so what better way than being outrageous?

On its upbeat numbers, the sound of the album is straight out of the 80s, which is fine; it sits alongside many other albums in that regard. It’s nothing new and it’s no better or worse for it.

One thing that this album has in common with a lot of modern artists is that on many songs, you hear the voice and a sound – what sound? I don’t always know, but some sound – more than I hear the instruments. I mean, I’m sure there are individual instruments there, but the overall sound is a digital, sanitised slurry, which is ironic given some of the lyrics. Maybe if she combined those lyrics with a razor’s edge guitar and throbbing bass even more people would sit up and take notice (but probably not the young audience she is after). To be fair, there’s some nice piano on “Kaleidoscope” and a short-lived outbreak of acoustic picking on “Guilty Pleasure” but these moments are few and far between.

I notice that @BlueHammer85 said that he might listen to a Taylor Swift album at some point. Whilst her growing legion of fans would no doubt point you to her most recent efforts, I feel they also suffer from the “digital slurry” effect in parts and instead, I’d direct you backwards to when her sound was more basic, and she had a proper band sound that combined with her brilliant bridges and choruses. As for comparison between Taylor Swift and Chappell Roan, from a purely musical standpoint there really is no comparison; different lyrical approach, different production styles – go and listen to the Fearless album and tell me that Chappell Roan is in the same league.

I enjoyed the vocals in “After Midnight”, just kooky (is that an American word?) enough without being annoying. “Coffee”, with its strings, has a different feel and it shows that she can sing and adapt her voice to different styles. Considering Foggy was desperate for some BPM, I’m surprised at how many slower songs appear on this album. Is this really an album that you’d dance to? I’d say that for more than half its running time, it’s an album that you’d sit and listen to whilst sipping a cappuccino.

When all is said and done, it’s not a bad album but there’s nothing to make me want to listen again. I’ll go for a same-as-Radiohead 5.5/10.
 
Great review, but unless i'm reading it wrong there seems to be a hell of alot of criticism, can't decide on the manipulation angle she is going for, the in-between stuff is uncomfortable, the hyper femineity stuff annoys the hell out of you, makes you feel creepy, comparisons to The Struts... etc.

then out of nowhere a big score of 8/10!
Those are its good points!

You're reading it right. Typically when I write a review I just start writing about what I found interesting and see where it goes. To be honest I've not found an interesting way to say "some good tunes" so that kind of gets tacked on at the end.
 
The Rise And Fall Of A Midwest Princess – Chappell Roan

After two listens, I’m going to have to call it. Not because it’s bad or I’ve had enough, but I’m off to Spain today, and I don’t want to have to type all of this out on a phone next week.

Whilst I agree with Foggy that I’m not comfortable listening to young women singing sexually explicit lyrics, I’m not convinced it’s a great thing for men or artists in general to do either. Like the best directors who can provoke emotions and convey feeling by showing just enough and cutting away at the optimum point, I think the best songwriters and performers are capable of doing the same. Still, it’s her first album and she’s trying to make a name for herself, so what better way than being outrageous?

On its upbeat numbers, the sound of the album is straight out of the 80s, which is fine; it sits alongside many other albums in that regard. It’s nothing new and it’s no better or worse for it.

One thing that this album has in common with a lot of modern artists is that on many songs, you hear the voice and a sound – what sound? I don’t always know, but some sound – more than I hear the instruments. I mean, I’m sure there are individual instruments there, but the overall sound is a digital, sanitised slurry, which is ironic given some of the lyrics. Maybe if she combined those lyrics with a razor’s edge guitar and throbbing bass even more people would sit up and take notice (but probably not the young audience she is after). To be fair, there’s some nice piano on “Kaleidoscope” and a short-lived outbreak of acoustic picking on “Guilty Pleasure” but these moments are few and far between.

I notice that @BlueHammer85 said that he might listen to a Taylor Swift album at some point. Whilst her growing legion of fans would no doubt point you to her most recent efforts, I feel they also suffer from the “digital slurry” effect in parts and instead, I’d direct you backwards to when her sound was more basic, and she had a proper band sound that combined with her brilliant bridges and choruses. As for comparison between Taylor Swift and Chappell Roan, from a purely musical standpoint there really is no comparison; different lyrical approach, different production styles – go and listen to the Fearless album and tell me that Chappell Roan is in the same league.

I enjoyed the vocals in “After Midnight”, just kooky (is that an American word?) enough without being annoying. “Coffee”, with its strings, has a different feel and it shows that she can sing and adapt her voice to different styles. Considering Foggy was desperate for some BPM, I’m surprised at how many slower songs appear on this album. Is this really an album that you’d dance to? I’d say that for more than half its running time, it’s an album that you’d sit and listen to whilst sipping a cappuccino.

When all is said and done, it’s not a bad album but there’s nothing to make me want to listen again. I’ll go for a same-as-Radiohead 5.5/10.
Nice review. I hear so much Taylor Swift in my house but I've no idea which songs are which era Swift. I'll listen to fearless this week sometime. Enjoy the holiday
 
Nice review. I hear so much Taylor Swift in my house but I've no idea which songs are which era Swift. I'll listen to fearless this week sometime. Enjoy the holiday

Don't get me going on Swift 'Eras'. I asked my fully indoctrinated niece to convince me that the whole era thing wasn't just a load of self aggrandising marketing bollocks. She failed miserably but outrageously didn't seem to care that she had palpbly failed. It's like she thinks I'm just a crazy old guy whose opinion doesn't matter anymore!!!!!!
 
Don't get me going on Swift 'Eras'. I asked my fully indoctrinated niece to convince me that the whole era thing wasn't just a load of self aggrandising marketing bollocks. She failed miserably but outrageously didn't seem to care that she had palpbly failed. It's like she thinks I'm just a crazy old guy whose opinion doesn't matter anymore!!!!!!
Lots of artists play songs from throughout their career. But to do a three-hour show playing songs from EVERY album - and to be fair, it's not like she has only one or two - is rare, if not unprecedented.

I didn't see this tour but I've seen two of her shows and they are entertaining. I'm not really into all of the huge stages and 1000 dancers, I'm more of a music guy, but the shows were an impressive spectacle.
 

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