The Album Review Club - Week #147 - (page 1942) - Blonde On Blonde - Bob Dylan

Most people over here at the time thought A Flock Of Seagulls were an American band. Big in the States, not much going on over here.

Wishing was their only big hit over here I think. Another one of the Bands Reunited episodes I watched. The fella with the mad hair was sort of bald with a straggly ponytail by then. I was surprised when the song they featured on the programme was I Ran, but I learnt subsequently that it and a few other songs were much bigger big hits in the US.
 
The Hitchhikers Guide theme was my introduction to The Eagles in 1978.

Everyday is a school day - I had no idea that that was one of their songs. For a moment I panicked and thought that means I might have to revise my opinion of them but I've just read that Henley and Frey hated it and that contributed to the guy who wrote it leaving not long after. So as LG would say, as you were.
 
As people keep mentioning the bass on this, time for a rant about one of the few things I dislike about this album. When it first came out, I liked pretty much everything about it but over the years as I’ve heard more and more music I have revised my view of some of the bass on here, where I have multifold issues.

ABCs goal was to fuse soul and new wave and in doing that have a significant element of funk to what they were doing. I think it's trying to be funky in the traditional sense, in the spirit of Larry Graham and probably more so Bernard Edwards. But it’s not funky like that, in a number of places it’s too mechanical and technical for technicality's sake which then set against the very clear soul/philly sound influences flying around the rest of the album make it sound like an archetypal 80's pastiche of being funky . There's loads of isolated popping without any slap because, well who knows why, because presumably they thought it was good? This is further exacerbated by the fact the strings have a real warmth to them that makes the bass jar even more at times. I’m pretty sure all the bass is real and though it's good playing especially Brad Lang who Horn brought in as a session musician, it’s misplaced and as trademark 80s as it is, for me it sometimes doesn’t sit in the mix right for what it was supposed to achieve; there are multiple occasions where it’s just too discrete and divorced from the rest of the sound. This is not always the case, at times when there’s a less is more approach, it works really well for example in All of My Heart where Lang's playing is restrained and works beautifully. But if you'll pardon the pun, there's times where Trevor Horn just needs a slap.

On the subject of which

[START SIDE RANT/ Given he was a kid who grew up learning double bass from his Dad, Trevor Horn's approach to basslines far too often does does my head in. The most egregious example is probably Frankie Goes to Hollywood. I could never understand as a youngster quite why I hated their sound as much as did, however I later learnt how he was creating the bass lines and that was, musically speaking, probably a good 75% of why I couldn't abide them. Just because you can do something with a piece of kit doesn’t mean you should and his technique for lobbing real bass into a Synclavier and programming it all from there, was very clever, really technically demanding and sounded unearthly.

Unearthly but not in a good way.

Don’t get me wrong I love synthesised bass but what Horn did to get some of his sounds was create a foul chimera of the real and the synthesised that like a mythic creature that fits neither one world or the other is doomed to wander in a limbo of sonic shiteness. Who TF am I to lecture Trevor Horn, but that doesn’t alter the fact it gets right on my tits. One of the reasons I love Pino Palladino from that era is even though he was Mr fretless bass he never sounded pastiche, generally speaking no titting about either in performance or production just playing the bloody thing. Whereas it seemed that most bass players Trevor Horn got his hands on he either dismissed as crap and replaced them with someone or something else or for the ones he thought were good encouraged them to play completely over the top with no real sense of the groove and then chucked additional production at it to add insult to injury. Someone should have said to him, when it comes to rhythm sections there is such a thing as being too clever mate.
/END SIDE RANT]
 
Wishing was their only big hit over here I think. Another one of the Bands Reunited episodes I watched. The fella with the mad hair was sort of bald with a straggly ponytail by then. I was surprised when the song they featured on the programme was I Ran, but I learnt subsequently that it and a few other songs were much bigger big hits in the US.
Humungous over here. And I Ran was the first one that just absolutely took over, but my favo(u)rite has always been Space Age Love Song.

If you have an exaggerated loop or wave in your doo, especially if you're a guy, similar to like what's-his-name, you're STILL -- more than 40 years later -- referred to as having "Flock of Seagulls hair" here.
 
Humungous over here. And I Ran was the first one that just absolutely took over, but my favo(u)rite has always been Space Age Love Song.

If you have an exaggerated loop or wave in your doo, especially if you're a guy, similar to like what's-his-name, you're STILL -- more than 40 years later -- referred to as having "Flock of Seagulls hair" here.
I got into them very early, think my cousin had bought 'It's Not Me Talking' in 1981, and loved the keyboards. I obviously thought they were American.
 
Everyday is a school day - I had no idea that that was one of their songs. For a moment I panicked and thought that means I might have to revise my opinion of them but I've just read that Henley and Frey hated it and that contributed to the guy who wrote it leaving not long after. So as LG would say, as you were.
Ha! It's completely out of character on the album. All of their albums.
 
In the States, while Duran Duran broke "first", they were seen as much as teeny-bop heartthrobs as musicians, and more a guitar band,
More viewed from me as a teeny-bop heartthrobs at the time, but over the years, I do appreciate their later music much more. Their recent ACL performance a year or so ago was fantastic.

and when Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" came out, it was viewed as more of a one-off.
Indeed. Them and Madness. "Our House" over and over and over...

I think the poster children for Brit new wave sensibilities in the early 80s in the U.S. were centered on one band: A Flock of Seagulls. Hair matters! After that of course there were scads of others, including Depeche Mode.
Never knew that AFoS were from Liverpool until just now.

Personally, I think the first "new wave" song I ever loved was Gary Numan's "Cars", which remains among my top 30 favo(u)rite tunes of all time, and that was late 70s. Though I had an elephantine rock side that dominated my youth, I heard and loved "Cars" long before I heard "Highway to Hell."
Never was a fan of that one, not sure why, maybe the repetition within. I needed a few more years for "new wave" to be appreciated.
 
Well, I've just learnt something reading this! My ex wife was brought up in Canada, and liked alot of the British 80's bands mentioned.....particularly A Flock of Seagulls, which I found weird, as I thought they were a 5min flash in the pan, that were only known in that 5mins for having stupid hair!! Never realised they lasted more than 5mins over the pond.....still weird that anyone liked them though ;)
 
Sometimes, less really is more. This is one of those. I know it is not a genre and era I particularly like anyway, but on it's own merit, it is just overdone. Throw as many gimmicks at it to disguise otherwise boring formulaic song writing and unoriginal performance and singing. And then rinse repeat for each song, with the hope that those looking for something 'more' will fall for it. I have in the past praised richness in songs, so I don't think it is necessarily a conviction to minimalism, just purely how I see this album. Liked it less than the last one and a few I can remember so a 3 from me.
 

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