mancity2012_eamo
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I may have mellowed by December. You could get Daniel O’Donnell sings Christmas.
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The Album Review Club - Week #147 - (page 1942) - Blonde On Blonde - Bob Dylan
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RobMCFC
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Grit. Reality. Humility. Considered words - all admirable traits I look for in music.What happened to looking for 'grit' in things?
Shouting, swearing, screaming, not leaving any space between the notes - less so.
In fact, I’d go as far as to say that if you find anything rewarding in rap and hip-hop, you’ve been brainwashed by the media or your peers.
The connection is critical and on a thread like this you can obtain detail that leads you another journey often a very satisfying one that otherwise you wouldn't have.Same for me though it’s a wider band — early 70s to mid 90s — but particularly at change points (late 70s/early 80s punk revolution and early 90s grunge revolution). Both those transitions allowed for a lot of creativity and experimentation by a lot of bands which created unique records IMO.
Fog for example has made me revisit some music I had almost forgotten about and that is a good thing in its own right as have others.
Fog wasn't aware for example, despite his physical connection with Slims a bar that the great IMO Boz Scaggs ( How he is not in the Hall of Fame is beyond me ) co- owns, was in the Steve Miller Band another legend who I have spent countless hours listening to and hadn't missed a beat when I saw him in 2013 with Santana one of the 20 best concerts I attended.
Grit. Reality. Humility. Considered words - all admirable traits I look for in music.
Shouting, swearing, screaming, not leaving any space between the notes - less so.
In fact, I’d go as far as to say that if you find anything rewarding in rap and hip-hop, you’ve been brainwashed by the media or your peers.
Yep that's me, the glamour subdued me, the tabloids untied me.
Right that's it pal, you are getting a rap album next round. Might even bump this choice and speed it up. Back up in your ass with the resurrection..
RobMCFC
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I will, of course, give any album nominated a fair crack of the whip. So I look forward to it.Yep that's me, the glamour subdued me, the tabloids untied me.
Right that's it pal, you are getting a rap album next round. Might even bump this choice and speed it up. Back up in your ass with the resurrection..
RobMCFC
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Women and Children First – Van Halen
I can’t believe how many times I’ve heard “And the Cradle Will Rock” and just lazily assumed it was driven by some fuzzed up guitar effect. To read @OB1 ’s intro and find out that it’s actually a Wurlitzer electric piano was a bit of a revelation! But now I listen closely it is obviously a compressed piano sound. Anyway, it’s a great song – one of VH’s best – and a cracking start to the album.
“Everybody Wants Some!!” is a good mix of guitar and David Lee Roth fooling around, and “Fool” continues the vibe (with Roth giving a Louis Armstrong-style growl as the track closes). There’s some fast bass and more superb EVH guitar during “Romeo Delight”.
“Tora! Tora!” is less than a minute of pointless noise, and I’m not really keen on “Loss of Control” but things really pick up again with “Take Your Whiskey Home” and “Could This Be Magic?” I like acoustic guitars on rock albums – it can provide variety that stops the music sounding samey and this is definitely the case here. In fact, David Lee Roth singing along to EVH strumming and using bottleneck on an acoustic would have been an album worth hearing. “In a Simple Rhyme” is a pleasant mid-tempo rocker with some nicely arranged harmony vocals to close out the album.
I agree that this album is not their best – the debut, with songs like “Runnin’ with the Devil”, “Ain’t Talkin’ ‘bout love” and “Eruption” is better, and of course their undisputed masterpiece is 1984 – an album that so effortlessly mixed 80s synth and hard-rock guitar (is there a rock album with better back-to-back tracks than “Jump” and “Panama”? And both have totally different feels too). However, aside the mid-section sag, this is a really good record. Whilst I don’t think there are any truly great songs, it’s punchy, has a bit of variety and doesn’t outstay its welcome. Easily 7/10 and the best choice on this thread for quite some time.
I can’t believe how many times I’ve heard “And the Cradle Will Rock” and just lazily assumed it was driven by some fuzzed up guitar effect. To read @OB1 ’s intro and find out that it’s actually a Wurlitzer electric piano was a bit of a revelation! But now I listen closely it is obviously a compressed piano sound. Anyway, it’s a great song – one of VH’s best – and a cracking start to the album.
“Everybody Wants Some!!” is a good mix of guitar and David Lee Roth fooling around, and “Fool” continues the vibe (with Roth giving a Louis Armstrong-style growl as the track closes). There’s some fast bass and more superb EVH guitar during “Romeo Delight”.
“Tora! Tora!” is less than a minute of pointless noise, and I’m not really keen on “Loss of Control” but things really pick up again with “Take Your Whiskey Home” and “Could This Be Magic?” I like acoustic guitars on rock albums – it can provide variety that stops the music sounding samey and this is definitely the case here. In fact, David Lee Roth singing along to EVH strumming and using bottleneck on an acoustic would have been an album worth hearing. “In a Simple Rhyme” is a pleasant mid-tempo rocker with some nicely arranged harmony vocals to close out the album.
I agree that this album is not their best – the debut, with songs like “Runnin’ with the Devil”, “Ain’t Talkin’ ‘bout love” and “Eruption” is better, and of course their undisputed masterpiece is 1984 – an album that so effortlessly mixed 80s synth and hard-rock guitar (is there a rock album with better back-to-back tracks than “Jump” and “Panama”? And both have totally different feels too). However, aside the mid-section sag, this is a really good record. Whilst I don’t think there are any truly great songs, it’s punchy, has a bit of variety and doesn’t outstay its welcome. Easily 7/10 and the best choice on this thread for quite some time.
Saddleworth2
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I listened to it once right through and then my choice of tracks again. The genre is just not for me. I know its competently played but I get absolutely nothing from any of it. No connection, no emotion, no excitement, nothing, nyada.
Its not just VH, its the genre and covers both US and UK bands. I just can't listen to this type of music and enjoy it in the slightest. 2 points for being able to play their instruments well.
2/10
Its not just VH, its the genre and covers both US and UK bands. I just can't listen to this type of music and enjoy it in the slightest. 2 points for being able to play their instruments well.
2/10
FogBlueInSanFran
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I’m not sure one should generaliz(s)e about such a wide-ranging, long-lasting genre, but I did like it better when an artist could steal whatever beats and sound clips they wanted without a royalty lawsuit. I’m not saying it was right that they could (because it shouldn’t have been) — just that artists could be more creative when they could.Grit. Reality. Humility. Considered words - all admirable traits I look for in music.
Shouting, swearing, screaming, not leaving any space between the notes - less so.
In fact, I’d go as far as to say that if you find anything rewarding in rap and hip-hop, you’ve been brainwashed by the media or your peers.
RobMCFC
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We all have our prejudices and pet hates, and I'm afraid the whole rap/hip-hop genre is one of mine.I’m not sure one should generaliz(s)e about such a wide-ranging, long-lasting genre, but I did like it better when an artist could steal whatever beats and sound clips they wanted without a royalty lawsuit. I’m not saying it was right that they could (because it shouldn’t have been) — just that artists could be more creative when they could.
The best thing to come out of it is Weird Al Yankovich's parody, "Amish Paradise", which I know has been discussed before - and that's because it's funny and not really anything to do with the music. I do like "Walk this Way" by Aerosmith/Run DMC, but I'm not generally a fan of the whole rap attitude thing.
We all have our prejudices and pet hates, and I'm afraid the whole rap/hip-hop genre is one of mine.
The best thing to come out of it is Weird Al Yankovich's parody, "Amish Paradise", which I know has been discussed before - and that's because it's funny and not really anything to do with the music. I do like "Walk this Way" by Aerosmith/Run DMC, but I'm not generally a fan of the whole rap attitude thing.
Not even Girls Aloud?