The Album Review Club - Week #195 (page 1310) - A New World Record - ELO

Well, ten seconds in instantly I recogniz(s)e "School", and I know "Dreamer" and "Bloody Well Right" already -- I wonder if this is a record I'm going to realiz(s)e I've heard many times before.

Edit: it isn't. But I did recall "School" -- not the rest other than the hits after it -- so it must have been a radio song here at some point.
A great radio song, but not the typical "go to" off of Breakfast In America that we both know were more popular and in some cases, a bit overplayed. The lazy DJ approach to this album was to put on "Dreamer", and that's a crying shame, IMHO.

Is "School" one of their best songs of all time? I'd argue it is, and it is certainly on the homemade CD compilation I put together. A Crime that it wasn't on their usual GHs.
 
This is bringing back memories.
Never had any of their stuff myself but I’m sure I heard them all the time, maybe in friend’s houses. They were certainly part of the establishment growing up in the seventies.
They always had something chartable and crossed the divide between rock and pop audiences. Whether it be CotC, Breakfast in America or Even in the Quietest Moments, there was always something likeable that was radio friendly but just outside of pop enough to reach a wider audience.

Pop heavy? or Rock light? Whatever, I certainly wouldn’t class them in the same vein as Genesis or Yes or many others that I was well into.
For some strange reason perhaps, I can’t help but place them in the same vein as late seventies into eighties band, The Cars.
Pop but better than your norm. Serious pop?
Crossing normal audience boundaries.?
It’s not a bad skill to have, although at times they can be overblown with the epicness and that can irritate.

Anyway, I know all these songs and find them all pleasant enough. All quite brilliant if you’re in the mood and perhaps over familiar if you’re of a certain vintage.

A good pick.
 
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A great radio song, but not the typical "go to" off of Breakfast In America that we both know were more popular and in some cases, a bit overplayed. The lazy DJ approach to this album was to put on "Dreamer", and that's a crying shame, IMHO.

Is "School" one of their best songs of all time? I'd argue it is, and it is certainly on the homemade CD compilation I put together. A Crime that it wasn't on their usual GHs.

School is one of their best.
 
This is bringing back memories.
Never had any of their stuff myself but I’m sure I heard them all the time, maybe in friend’s houses. They were certainly part of the establishment growing up in the seventies.
They always had something chartable and crossed the divide between rock and pop audiences. Whether it be CotC, Breakfast in America or Even in the Quietest Moments, there was always something likeable that was radio friendly but just outside of pop enough to reach a wider audience.

Pop heavy? or Rock light? Whatever, I certainly wouldn’t class them in the same vein as Genesis or Yes or many others that I was well into.
For some strange reason perhaps, I can’t help but place them in the same vein as late seventies into eighties band, The Cars.
Pop but better than your norm. Serious pop?
Crossing normal audience boundaries.?
It’s not a bad skill to have, although at times they can be overblown with the epicness and that can irritate.

Anyway, I know all these songs and find them all pleasant enough. All quite brilliant if you’re in the mood and perhaps over familiar if you’re of a certain vintage.

A good pick.

Their audience at the time of this album and its follow-up was a prog one.
 
I've got into Supertramp in the last few years and I absolutely love them.
But I've never been able to warm to Dreamer which is IMHO overplayed when they have so many fantastic and commercial songs. It would probably go in my list of deeply annoying or detested songs to be honest!
 
Sorry everyone, I've been snowed under with work again recently. Hopefully it will be slowing down as I'll hopefully moving on soon! :)

Anyway, I have played this album a good few times over the years and love it. Another one of those albums from the 70s that's just absolutely brilliant.

It's got a bit of everything in it - great harmonies, great vocals, good lyrics, a touch of funk and great production. Of course they can play as well!

It's basically the closest thing you'll get to Michael McDonald/Doobies as you will get in my mind. Speaking of which, can't wait to see them at the Coop in a few weeks - saw MM at the Apollo a few years ago and he was magnificent and it will be great to see these legends again.

Anyway, back to Supertramp. They are a great band and this is a great album.

8/10
 
Always did wonder what a full scale production and 44 minutes of this would sound like..

 
Great write up @OB1 as usual.
Supertramp were one of my dear departed wife’s favourite bands and she loved the lyrics of Roger Hodgson.
I really liked too from COTC up to Breakfast.
To my ears, the difference between the Hodgson and Davies penned songs were always stark with a heavy preference for the former.
I happen to love “Dreamer” because it’s succinct, upbeat with that syncopated keyboard line bringing joy.
The other classic is “Hide in your Shell” which builds nicely throughout.
Someone mentioned earlier about “Child of Vision” from BIA. Totally agree it’s another Classic.
Hodgson briefly flirted with Yes which would have been a wonderful musical journey. Yes eventually recorded “Walls” from the “Talk” album.
 
A decent throwback 70s album. Yippee.

In fairness, it is perfectly decent, and no point being critical of something this decent.

Decent passages of music, decent bit of everything thrown in. Perfectly lelistenable and appreciable.

It is not really my thing. The play-acting cabaret singing, the constant kitsch, the attempts at 'enriching' something in essence pretty banal. I try picture them huddled in their smoky basement, genuinely 'exploring' music and having fun with it. I try picture them on a stage of a sold out Broadway show. I try picture the truth somewhere in the middle, in their childhood bedroom, dreaming of being on Broadway. The end result is always the same. Cool, not bad, next.

They do it well, that much I can't deny. Not as well as others of the type (Elton John, Queen etc), but better than others of their time as well. If they are considered 'overlooked', I can see why. But I can also admit they deserve praise.

None of it really bothered me. Well apart from Dreamer, which is fucking unbearable. The last three songs on the album are actually the best for me. Particularly If Everyone Was Listening, with then a good (almost) instrumental final song.

While it doesn't do much for me, I do suppose I have to thank albums of this type for the reaction they prompted, and what came next. I.e The conscious stripping of gimmicks and tat led to that desert metal monikered rock movement and ultimately grunge (which then unfortunately itself became tacky, leading to emergence of emo, which then itself..).

While I do say it is not my thing, I did quite enjoy at least three songs on it. Which is more than 30% of the album, and more than on a significant number of albums I would proclaim to 'not be my thing' that I have listened to. And (apart from Dreamer, which is fucking unbearable), I didn't mind the rest, which was decent. So I guess a decent 7.
 
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A decent throwback 70s album. Yippee.

In fairness, it is perfectly decent, and no point being critical of something this decent.

Decent passages of music, decent bit of everything thrown in. Perfectly lelistenable and appreciable.

It is not really my thing. The play-acting cabaret singing, the constant kitsch, the attempts at 'enriching' something in essence pretty banal. I try picture them huddled in their smoky basement, genuinely 'exploring' music and having fun with it. I try picture them on a stage of a sold out Broadway show. I try picture the truth somewhere in the middle, in their childhood bedroom, dreaming of being on Broadway. The end result is always the same. Cool, not bad, next.

They do it well, that much I can't deny. Not as well as others of the type (Elton John, Queen etc), but better than others of their time as well. If they are considered 'overlooked', I can see why. But I can also admit they deserve praise.

None of it really bothered me. Well apart from Dreamer, which is fucking unbearable. The last three songs on the album are actually the best for me. Particularly If Everyone Was Listening, with then a good (almost) instrumental final song.

While it doesn't do much for me, I do suppose I have to thank albums of this type for the reaction they prompted, and what came next. I.e The conscious stripping of gimmicks and tat led to that desert metal monikered rock movement and ultimately grunge (which then unfortunately itself became tacky, leading to emergence of emo, which then itself..).

While I do say it is not my thing, I did quite enjoy at least three songs on it. Which is more than 30% of the album, and more than on a significant number of albums I would proclaim to 'not be my thing' that I have listened to. And (apart from Dreamer, which is fucking unbearable), I didn't mind the rest, which was decent. So I guess a decent 7.
....So it was "decent". Pretty summed up my first 2 listens on way in to work this morning.
I think the only one that actually stood out for me and rose above decent was "Hide In Your Shell". Apart from that I was almost thinking...only one more listen to do.

Supertramp are great, I probably only know the Breakfast singles - revert back in a week.
Will it take a week to get over the perceived embarrassment of nominating Embrace?
It honestly wasn't that bad....least better than The Streets!
 
This is one of those where it's objective qualities and personal preferences clash. I've never really been able to get on with Supertramp despite there being nothing wrong with them and me never being able to put my finger on why. I gave something that wasn't my cup of tea a reasonable score last week but weirdly I feel less predisposed to do that this week. Good job everybody accepts the scoring is all tosh.
 
A decent throwback 70s album. Yippee.

In fairness, it is perfectly decent, and no point being critical of something this decent.

Decent passages of music, decent bit of everything thrown in. Perfectly lelistenable and appreciable.

It is not really my thing. The play-acting cabaret singing, the constant kitsch, the attempts at 'enriching' something in essence pretty banal. I try picture them huddled in their smoky basement, genuinely 'exploring' music and having fun with it. I try picture them on a stage of a sold out Broadway show. I try picture the truth somewhere in the middle, in their childhood bedroom, dreaming of being on Broadway. The end result is always the same. Cool, not bad, next.

They do it well, that much I can't deny. Not as well as others of the type (Elton John, Queen etc), but better than others of their time as well. If they are considered 'overlooked', I can see why. But I can also admit they deserve praise.

None of it really bothered me. Well apart from Dreamer, which is fucking unbearable. The last three songs on the album are actually the best for me. Particularly If Everyone Was Listening, with then a good (almost) instrumental final song.

While it doesn't do much for me, I do suppose I have to thank albums of this type for the reaction they prompted, and what came next. I.e The conscious stripping of gimmicks and tat led to that desert metal monikered rock movement and ultimately grunge (which then unfortunately itself became tacky, leading to emergence of emo, which then itself..).

While I do say it is not my thing, I did quite enjoy at least three songs on it. Which is more than 30% of the album, and more than on a significant number of albums I would proclaim to 'not be my thing' that I have listened to. And (apart from Dreamer, which is fucking unbearable), I didn't mind the rest, which was decent. So I guess a decent 7.

I'm getting the sense that you're finding Dreamer less than bearable?
 
A classic album IMHO. Bookended by the excellent School and title track with personal favourites, Hide In Your Shell, Asylum and Rudy. Wonderful production by Ken Scott.

It has stood the test of time and does not sound dated to my ears as these are just great songs and arrangements
 
I may struggle for time to listen to this week’s pick as I’m off to Sweden for five days although I will have some earphones and if the opportunity arises…

But on first listen last night I can’t say as I would look forward to it. When I suggested elements if 10cc that would be a good thing if they did it as well as 10cc. When I mentioned elements of Queen, well that’s just a bad thing
 
I'm getting the sense that you're finding Dreamer less than bearable?
Interestingly, the post immediately before mine highlighted it as one of their favourite songs. I pointed out the 3 songs I liked. The post afte mine identified their 2 favourites which were different from mine. And earlier on someone identified 2 more that were none of the above.

To me that is a sign of a good album, that it doesn't have any obvious hits or misses, and people take out of it what works for them.
 
A classic album IMHO. Bookended by the excellent School and title track with personal favourites, Hide In Your Shell, Asylum and Rudy. Wonderful production by Ken Scott.

It has stood the test of time and does not sound dated to my ears as these are just great songs and arrangements

Glad someone else showed some appreciation for Ken Scott.

Do leave a score out of 10.
 

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