The Conservative Party

[Ban-jani]

From speaking to people working for the organisation responsible for implementing brexit, shit show is very accurate, although could be improved by describing it is a "slow burning but definitely accumulating shit show". Every day the backlog is getting worse. This is not teething problems, it's systemic, and is going to keep building up, and up and up. Boris Johnson's brexit is fucking shit.

It’s not great no but there’s a ton of hyperbole and yes these are teething problems, the ports will be sorted and in a few months things will be running very smoothly.

Let’s not forget the EU also want this to be more seamless.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Brexit is shit.

I am sure we never had half of the problems we've got now.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

The DUP will have a majority then still, it’s highly unlikely that political will in NI will have changed substantially enough that the UK SoS will be forced to give the vote.

These terms of “shit show” and “huge fucking wedge” are hyperbole based on teething issues.

Nobody with a brain thought from day one everything would be dandy but these issues won’t be happening in 4 years time.

As it stands, within the GFA, only 20% of the country has elected to be known as solely Irish, that’s a pretty good indicator of how nationalism is viewed. Whilst Catholicism is growing, it’s oddly not resulting in the same growth of nationalism over loyalism.

I think a better measure of whether a referendum will be called is...

1. The result of the Brexit referendum in NI.
2. how many people from NI have applied for Irish Passports
3. How close the Government of Ireland get to solving the problems of NI (Like financing Erasmus Students)
4. How the demographics will change over the next four years.
5. What sort of shit show develops
6. Whether the UK Government crash the NIP because of their inability to sort out the customs chaos.

This could be a lot closer than you think.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

I don't see that as at all likely. Would be more beneficial in the long run for them to have their own currency.
Due to the population disparities, a shared central bank will inevitably make decisions to the benefit of England at the expense of Scotland and Wales. Without a political union there will be nothing to tie fiscal policy to monetary policy. They would both be better off in the Eurozone with the ECB.

Bearing in mind they would leave with no debt ... the ECB sounds the best option.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

So it would appear that Vicky Ford (The minister for Children) voted against providing free school meals for disadvantaged children



Here she is lying on TV (Sounds Drunk)


She's from the same political party as Liz Truss who submitted an expense claim of £8750 for a photoshoot for her 'parliamentary' photographs and Ian Smith who submitted a claim for £39 for a breakfast.

Heres another liar



Promising that no child will go hungry as a result of the pandemic.... just before he voted against giving children free school meals during the pandemic.

 

[Ban-jani]

I think a better measure of whether a referendum will be called is...

1. The result of the Brexit referendum in NI.
2. how many people from NI have applied for Irish Passports
3. How close the Government of Ireland get to solving the problems of NI (Like financing Erasmus Students)
4. How the demographics will change over the next four years.
5. What sort of shit show develops
6. Whether the UK Government crash the NIP because of their inability to sort out the customs chaos.

This could be a lot closer than you think.

1. That was four years ago, NI are in both the SM and UK customs area, they’re laughing
2. This could purely be for travel purposes across the EU, it doesn’t mean they want to unite Ireland
3. The government of NI you mean? I don’t think it’s a major issue anyway
4. This is the key one and the evidence suggest whilst Catholics will outnumber Protestants, the dynamic has changed regarding that being a binary nationalist vs loyalist issue now. Many Catholics don’t want to unite Ireland
5. It’ll get better rather than worse I reckon
6. I really don’t know how the UK government can “crash” NI’s Parliament, even if they wanted to.

 

[Rascal]

People voted for her to be an MP.

Mind blowing

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

People voted for her to be an MP.

Mind blowing

Its Essex mate ..... The same people who voted for

Patel
Francois
Cleverley
Jenkin

I dont understand it

 

[Rascal]

Its Essex mate ..... The same people who voted for

Patel
Francois
Cleverley
Jenkin

I dont understand it

The only conclusion I can possibly come up with is that the people of Essex are incredibly stupid. (lot of rags in Essex, so probably accurate)

That reads like a who's who of political crackpots.

 

[Saddleworth2]

6. I really don’t know how the UK government can “crash” NI’s Parliament, even if they wanted to.

I think it was protocol rather than parliament and they are quite capable of trashing that.