The Conservative Party

inbetween said:
The thing is elections are a two way street, if you want to get rid of someone then you need something else to vote for.

At the moment I definitely won't vote Tory but I'd have to think very hard about voting Labour because right now I have no idea what they stand for. The only other alternative is the Lib Dems and christ knows what they stand for nowadays, I haven't heard anything from them resembling policy for years.

Rather ironically we all know who we shouldn't vote for but we have no idea who we should vote for. That's perhaps why most people are turned off to politics, it's because the options on the table are horrendous.
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True...
 
Ric said:
I know the left on here are often guilty of living in an echo chamber, and the referendum of 2016 and General Election in 2019 are caustic reminders of this, but I really don’t get how anyone, even staunch Tories, could actually support Johnson and the current government. It’s completely blind partisanship, bereft of any critical thinking. He is utterly malign.
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Well, if people had listened to what was being shouted in the echo chamber, we'd have avoided this shit show (shit shows really, Brexit and Liar Johnson).

Listen to the latest shouting. "This is not normal."
 
mat said:
I agree.

FPTP is an antiquated system harking back to the days of the Whigs and Liberals and not a true picture of the country we live in.

It suits the two parties dominating politics so why would they change it?

Brown tested the waters and the people decided to live in their stockholm syndrome lives rather than realise they have the power to change things for the better for all.
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Eh? It was the coalition that held the the alternative vote referendum.
 
Ric said:
I know the left on here are often guilty of living in an echo chamber, and the referendum of 2016 and General Election in 2019 are caustic reminders of this, but I really don’t get how anyone, even staunch Tories, could actually support Johnson and the current government. It’s completely blind partisanship, bereft of any critical thinking. He is utterly malign.
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It's beyond any left / right political divide, it's a matter of competence and integrity and he hasn't got any.
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Claimed £6500 on Parliamentary expenses to heat his horse stables during the coldest winter in a century,Whilst homeless people were dying of hypothermia.
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It's appalling they receive anything at all to heat and power their homes. It's one thing they should immediately be giving up since we are all apparently in this together. How nothing more is being said about this is an absolute scandal.

Let all these fuckers be responsible for their own bills and watch the tide turn !
 
bobmcfc said:
It's appalling they receive anything at all to heat and power their homes. It's one thing they should immediately be giving up since we are all apparently in this together. How nothing more is being said about this is an absolute scandal.

Let all these fuckers be responsible for their own bills and watch the tide turn !
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But its not his home - if you saw him questioned by Kay Burley the other day he said it was a "small holding " he bought where his wife runs a business from. So are they allowed to claim expenses on premises where relatives work now?
 
bluethrunthru said:
But its not his home - if you saw him questioned by Kay Burley the other day he said it was a "small holding " he bought where his wife runs a business from. So are they allowed to claim expenses on premises where relatives work now?
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Yeah we just kept his horses warm.

And his cousins brothers sisters aunties. Haha
 
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