The Conservative Party

[mackenzie]

So what's the timing issue re Brexit if the Tories go through a leadership contest??

 

[robbieh]

And this is why FPTP is a shite system.

On the other you don't get Vox ending up with 12 seats.

 

[aguero93:20]

On the other you don't get Vox ending up with 12 seats.

FPTP could have Vox getting 10% of the vote and 40 seats.

 

[robbieh]

FPTP could have Vox getting 10% of the vote and 40 seats.

Not sure how you work that out. If Andalucía was set up on a constituency basis PSOE would win the majority and the ones they didn't win would have gone to Ciudanos or PP.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Has to be that.

well you can bet your sweet bippy he ain't taking her for a drink and a boogie !

 

[bluethrunthru]

So what's the timing issue re Brexit if the Tories go through a leadership contest??

It gets decided by means of an edition of Celebrity Pointless where each party gets to pick its celebrity representative.

 

[aguero93:20]

Not sure how you work that out. If Andalucía was set up on a constituency basis PSOE would win the majority and the ones they didn't win would have gone to Ciudanos or PP.

On the same basis that the SNP got 50 seats with a lower percentage under FPTP mate. PR goes a lot further to taking geographical spread out of it.

 

[robbieh]

On the same basis that the SNP got 50 seats with a lower percentage under FPTP mate. PR goes a lot further to taking geographical spread out of it.

SNP are the biggest party in Scotland. Vox were the 5th biggest in Andalucía.

 

[aguero93:20]

SNP are the biggest party in Scotland. Vox were the 5th biggest in Andalucía.

They could be the 5th biggest in Andalusia and be the biggest in one part of Andalusia hoovering up seats, just as the SNP were the fifth biggest in the UK by vote (I think? - Tory, Labour, Lib Dems, UKIP, SNP) but monopolized the seats in Scotland.

 

[robbieh]

They were quite strong in Almería 19%, but everywhere else way behind. If you divided Andalucía up into UK sized bits not sure they'd have won any seats at all.

 

[aguero93:20]

They were quite strong in Almería 19%, but everywhere else way behind. If you divided Andalucía up into UK sized bits not sure they'd have won any seats at all.

With the right spread of their support they could.

 

[robbieh]

With the right spread of their support they could.

It's pretty difficult to say. But in part of the UK, the SNP were way ahead of Labour and the Tories. There is nowhere in Andalucía where Vox were anything else than a protest vote. A bit like UKIp in England.

 

[aguero93:20]

It's pretty difficult to say. But in part of the UK, the SNP were way ahead of Labour and the Tories. There is nowhere in Andalucía where Vox were anything else than a protest vote. A bit like UKIp in England.

Protest vote or not, there's a serious problem with a system that produces the SNP and UKIP vote and seat numbers, it's an invitation to gerrymandering (not that I'm saying that has happened) and I don't think a fear of parties like Vox/UKIP getting a few seats justifies sticking with it.

 

[robbieh]

Protest vote or not, there's a serious problem with a system that produces the SNP and UKIP vote and seat numbers, it's an invitation to gerrymandering (not that I'm saying that has happened) and I don't think a fear of parties like Vox/UKIP getting a few seats justifies sticking with it.

Tend to agree.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

And this is why FPTP is a shite system.

And anachronistic

 

[aguero93:20]

And anachronistic

Yeah, might have made sense when there were only Tories and Whigs although the party with the popular support could still have ended in opposition.

Even then it's been out of date since 1874.

 

[1.618034]

Bünch of ****s.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Bunch of ****s.

Allow me to introduce you to the umlaut:

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[aguero93:20]

Allow me to introduce you to the umlaut:

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Pißy knickered cünt.

 

[1.618034]

Allow me to introduce you to the umlaut:

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Müch obliged.