The Conservative Party

mat said:
"The party is struggling to find a leader. If they had she'd be gone now."

Go on Liz, wake up big ears and call a GE as the ultimate fuck you.
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It is the nuclear option to keep her job. If she wants to, she can threaten to ask for dissolution of Parliament. She'd lose her job in the GE but it is a deterrent to being forced out by the party - mutually assured destruction of the Tory party.
 
I find it unbelievably that they think there is space for more cuts in public services after 12 years of austerity. It is incredibly.
 
They were saying last night that 25% are now in food poverty. 1 in fucking 4 struggling to feed their selves in one of the richest countries in the world.
Fucking scandalous.
 
As an alternative to Tory austerity, what do folk feel about this manifesto:

  • regain European citizenship and the right to study, work and live across the European Union
  • have lower energy prices and security of supply by increasing and diversifying our electricity generating capacity, making better, greener use of abundant natural energy resources
  • have a better, fairer working life, including improved access to flexible working, greater job security through strengthened workplace rights and, if you are a young person, the same minimum wage as everybody else
  • escape an economic model that concentrates wealth in a small proportion of the country while producing inequality, low investment, and low productivity
  • retain free movement
  • benefit directly from investments from the New Investment Fund, with an investment of up to £20 billion in major infrastructure, including investment in more energy-efficient homes, greener transport, better digital and mobile connectivity, and more affordable housing
  • take part in new ways for communities to own and steer the economy, including through direct stakes in local developments
  • live in a country where decisions about how we use our assets, talents and resources reflect our values and democratic choices, allowing us to develop the kind of inclusive consensus-driven economic policies that serve other European countries so well
 
Who was it last week who mentioned Kenya in the context of peaceful transition from empire to commonwealth?
 
Fred_Quimby said:
I find it unbelievably that they think there is space for more cuts in public services after 12 years of austerity. It is incredibly.
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You have to remember that a majority of them don't believe in the concept of the state or at best the concept of only a very small state that maybe provides the most basic support for the 'deserving poor', whoever the fuck they happen to be, as a fig leaf to provide some illusion of civilisation.

They are the party of everyone for themselves so public services are mostly just a burden, their model is those that can afford it will go to private providers/the insurance market and as for the rest...well fuck 'em because they clearly haven't worked hard enough or been 'savvy' (aka connected/corrupt/lucky) enough to deserve anything better. And to @nottsco2-0 's point let's ignore the fact that that is economically illiterate anyway.

Having spent the last three months dealing with social services on behalf of a family member and having achieved the sum total of diddly squat I'm coming to the conclusion that if I'm going to have to pay for stuff myself then I may as well take myself, my family, my business and our collective tax contributions somewhere that is at least warm. Of course, the bastards have made that quite a bit harder too.
 
threespires said:
You have to remember that a majority of them don't believe in the concept of the state or at best the concept of only a very small state that maybe provides the most basic support for the 'deserving poor', whoever the fuck they happen to be, as a fig leaf to provide some illusion of civilisation.

They are the party of everyone for themselves so public services are mostly just a burden, their model is those that can afford it will go to private providers/the insurance market and as for the rest...well fuck 'em because they clearly haven't worked hard enough or been 'savvy' (aka connected/corrupt/lucky) enough to deserve anything better. And to @nottsco2-0 's point let's ignore the fact that that is economically illiterate anyway.

Having spent the last three months dealing with social services on behalf of a family member and having achieved the sum total of diddly squat I'm coming to the conclusion that if I'm going to have to pay for stuff myself then I may as well take myself, my family, my business and our collective tax contributions somewhere that is at least warm. Of course, the bastards have made that quite a bit harder too.
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This is a really important point - taking away our ability for free movement is creating a population trapped in the UK's doom loop. People will start to resent this.


To add a layer of irony, trapping people and reducing their capability to take their labour elsewhere is probably counter to free-market ideals.
 
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