The Conservative Party

[bluethrunthru]

Says it all about Not So Cleverly and his party of self serving bastards.

one thing it starkly illustrates is they are all so shit at politics - big Autumn Statement today and give the Opposition a way to distract from it and attack you at the same time because you can't resist your juvenile urges.

and this

 

[metalblue]

Just think about that - if you are on @£15k pa you save a whopping £45 pa - less than a quid a week - if you get a rise or a new job @£18k pa because he hasn't lifted the amount at which you start paying type 2 NI fiscal drag means you will pay £111 pa contribs - over £2 per week. And he wants us all to pat him on the back for that? They are so far out of touch its untrue.

If you ask me this fires the starting gun on the GE race - bit of smoke and mirrors to come in next April and rush to an election in March hoping to convince the great unwashed they are about to be made rich beyond their wildest dreams ( then post election say oh no we have hit some headwinds again so most of that ain't gonna happen )

In fairness if you’re earning £15k a year you’re only paying £15 a week tax (NI and income) currently so you’re never going to get a headline breaking number.

Class 2 NI is self employed so it makes no sense to your first example.

 

[paulchapo]

I haven't seen the full autumn statement, just something about cutting national insurance and keeping the triple lock on pensions. That's okay but if you've got a private pension they'll just tax that more. The Tories always throw sweeteners out and say they've got the economy back on track after years of misery. The problem is nobody believes or trusts them anymore. You just know if they got reelected it would be austerity and cuts once again.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

Question: - is NI taken out before income tax or on the same amount? In other words, if you earn £15k do you pay income tax and NI on the same amount. (Taking into account tax threshold of course)

 

[metalblue]

Question: - is NI taken out before income tax or on the same amount? In other words, if you earn £15k do you pay income tax and NI on the same amount. (Taking into account tax threshold of course)

We pay income tax and NI on the same gross income above £12,570 - for the first 12,570 gross you pay nothing.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

The director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) was on the BBC after the Statement and didn't sound impressed by what he'd heard.

 

[metalblue]

Attack on the sick and disabled it is then , cunts

I might just top myself and be done with it

Is 6.7% an attack though? That’s on top of 10.1% isn’t it? I do appreciate costs are through the roof and that’s largely staying still at best rather than being better off. Or are you referring to something else they’ve announced?

 

[Vic]

How wonderfully condescending.

So you're still going to vote Reform?

 

[Scottyboi]

Is 6.7% an attack though? That’s on top of 10.1% isn’t it? I do appreciate costs are through the roof and that’s largely staying still at best rather than being better off. Or are you referring to something else they’ve announced?

They're trying to force over half a million disabled people back into work or face sanctions.

 

[bluegray]

They're trying to force over half a million disabled people back into work or face sanctions.

To me it looks like there going after the people who claim ESA and are in the work focus group. Basically forcing them into work after 18 months. I'm in the support group so will be interesting to see if they come for me too.