bluethrunthru
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the nasty party personified
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The Conservative Party
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the nasty party personified
Tory bastards being Tory bastards.
Rascal
El Presidente
the nasty party personified
The woman who co-authored a book claiming the UK worker was amongst the most idle in the word.
What fucking planet do these people live on.
Still silly cunts will vote for them.
bluethrunthru
Well-Known Member
suits me fine - the more they burn up electoral capital and goodwill and piss voters off the bigger will be their defeatTory bastards being Tory bastards.
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I would hope so but they'll dangle a carrot. Called Keith a **** and get back in. And forget about the carrot.suits me fine - the more they burn up electoral capital and goodwill and piss voters off the bigger will be their defeat
nmc
Well-Known Member
Universal Credit is corporate welfare.
Conservatives are not opposed to welfare per se, they would just prefer it didn‘t go to the poor, or as we have seen recently, to feed poorer children.
They also like schemes where they and their mates can take a margin.
Len Rum
Well-Known Member
Labour motion to extend £20 uplift to universal credit passes by 278-0.
Well done to Keith.
Tories u turning yet again.
Too frightened to support their own policies.
That's not leadership.
Well done to Keith.
Tories u turning yet again.
Too frightened to support their own policies.
That's not leadership.
feedmpenzaandhewillscore
Well-Known Member
Labour motion to extend £20 uplift to universal credit passes by 278-0.
Well done to Keith.
Tories u turning yet again.
Too frightened to support their own policies.
That's not leadership.
People vote for these twats, mind boggling .
Being terrified of the public to the point of not enacting your own policies because of a bit of backlash is absolutely terrible government.Labour motion to extend £20 uplift to universal credit passes by 278-0.
Well done to Keith.
Tories u turning yet again.
Too frightened to support their own policies.
That's not leadership.
Have some conviction ffs.
Starmer is going to embarrass Johnson over the coming weeks and years.
bluethrunthru
Well-Known Member
Read the whole thread of tweets - its a tragi-comedy involving two cheeks of the same arse completely out of touch with each other and reality. The Tory Party is no longer a political party merely a bunch of dissident groups arguing with and against each other against a back drop of a pandemic, Brexit, rising unemployment, collapsing businesses which also has an obsession with statues
Rascal
El Presidente
The Tories abstained so they could claim Labour were politicking in a time of crisis.Labour motion to extend £20 uplift to universal credit passes by 278-0.
Well done to Keith.
Tories u turning yet again.
Too frightened to support their own policies.
That's not leadership.
There mouthpieces have been out all day saying how wonderful UC is, apart from it being a total disaster, years overdue, full of holes, discriminatory , unfair and down right fucking insulting they have a point.
Anything that lying moron IDS touches has disaster written all over it, plus he had Grayling as a sidekick for a while helping (honest) and that fucking scouse witch off the TV with the decent knockers patronising people, so obviously what really did people expect.
The strange thing is in theory it is actually a fairly decent idea, it is just the morons who tried to carry it out that fucked it up by adding stupid fucking clauses because they have no idea what happens in the real world.
bluethrunthru
Well-Known Member
The Tories abstained so they could claim Labour were politicking in a time of crisis.
There mouthpieces have been out all day saying how wonderful UC is, apart from it being a total disaster, years overdue, full of holes, discriminatory , unfair and down right fucking insulting they have a point.
Anything that lying moron IDS touches has disaster written all over it, plus he had Grayling as a sidekick for a while helping (honest) and that fucking scouse witch off the TV with the decent knockers patronising people, so obviously what really did people expect.
The strange thing is in theory it is actually a fairly decent idea, it is just the morons who tried to carry it out that fucked it up by adding stupid fucking clauses because they have no idea what happens in the real world.
Listened to LBC today whilst working. Caller after caller shocked at how little support UC and JSA offer, how poor the system is - day in day out the excluded - said to be 3mil now rumoured to be much more as loads have been denied furlough too- as I keep saying they are pissing off so many voters with not a care in the world thats how out of touch with the real world they really are.
The idea that abstaining from a vote is not politicking is a laugh too. And I'd agree the idea that consolidating all benefits into one system/place makes perfect sense - I'd imagine progressive countries with developed welfare states such as those in Scandinavia probably have a simple, fair, welfare system accessible on line for their citizens.
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Read the whole thread of tweets - its a tragi-comedy involving two cheeks of the same arse completely out of touch with each other and reality. The Tory Party is no longer a political party merely a bunch of dissident groups arguing with and against each other against a back drop of a pandemic, Brexit, rising unemployment, collapsing businesses which also has an obsession with statues
Payne is the lovechild of Michael Gove and Briefcase Wanker from the Inbetweeners.
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Didn't IDS create that bill whilst he was bumming McVey?The Tories abstained so they could claim Labour were politicking in a time of crisis.
There mouthpieces have been out all day saying how wonderful UC is, apart from it being a total disaster, years overdue, full of holes, discriminatory , unfair and down right fucking insulting they have a point.
Anything that lying moron IDS touches has disaster written all over it, plus he had Grayling as a sidekick for a while helping (honest) and that fucking scouse witch off the TV with the decent knockers patronising people, so obviously what really did people expect.
The strange thing is in theory it is actually a fairly decent idea, it is just the morons who tried to carry it out that fucked it up by adding stupid fucking clauses because they have no idea what happens in the real world.
Don't get me started on Tories using projection to deflect from their own incompetence.
bluethrunthru
Well-Known Member
Payne is the lovechild of Michael Gove and Briefcase Wanker from the Inbetweeners.
still an interesting read
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It's tragic how Tories are so stupid they can't edit their WhatsApp group.still an interesting read
the blue panther
Well-Known Member
The Tories abstained so they could claim Labour were politicking in a time of crisis.
There mouthpieces have been out all day saying how wonderful UC is, apart from it being a total disaster, years overdue, full of holes, discriminatory , unfair and down right fucking insulting they have a point.
Anything that lying moron IDS touches has disaster written all over it, plus he had Grayling as a sidekick for a while helping (honest) and that fucking scouse witch off the TV with the decent knockers patronising people, so obviously what really did people expect.
The strange thing is in theory it is actually a fairly decent idea, it is just the morons who tried to carry it out that fucked it up by adding stupid fucking clauses because they have no idea what happens in the real world.
I agree. Working for the CAB I experience the effects of UC daily.
But, on a more serious note, Rascal, you've made a crucial, serious, allegation about a female, and, with over 60k posts, you know the rules - we require pic's!
Rascal
El Presidente
MMT for you. This just makes sense.The 1970s wants it policies back. Just kidding mate thanks for taking time to post that, I’ll have a read and get back to you
metalblue
Well-Known Member
MMT for you. This just makes sense.
I’ll have a look shortly mate, thanks for digging it out
metalblue
Well-Known Member
Listened to LBC today whilst working. Caller after caller shocked at how little support UC and JSA offer, how poor the system is - day in day out the excluded - said to be 3mil now rumoured to be much more as loads have been denied furlough too- as I keep saying they are pissing off so many voters with not a care in the world thats how out of touch with the real world they really are.
The idea that abstaining from a vote is not politicking is a laugh too. And I'd agree the idea that consolidating all benefits into one system/place makes perfect sense - I'd imagine progressive countries with developed welfare states such as those in Scandinavia probably have a simple, fair, welfare system accessible on line for their citizens.
By all means simplify the system, make 1 payment but just live in the real world for 10minutes. Pay the bloody money at least fortnightly to help people budget and not have to wait 5 weeks to get it at the start. Don’t sanction people and then let them appeal (and raise the threshold for when sanctions can take place, like missing 3 meetings per 12 months or something not just 1). The hardship payment is an entirely brilliant system thou, they’ve stopped your money, you don’t have a job, try borrowing the money from Billy at number 3, show us (if you can afford the bus fare to see us or get an appointment anytime soon) you haven’t wasted your money on luxuries (when you didn’t expect your payments to be sanctioned) and yeah here is a few quid to get you thru but you will have to repay it. Fuck off.
Anyway on the £20 vote I think abstaining was firstly to not give it more legitimacy and additionally to prevent them being accused of heartlessness and u turning as they haven’t decided yet on what to do. They are under the spotlight on this now