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interesting to see how Sunak is able to hammer the nails into his leadership coffin lid from INSIDE said coffin

 
Fred_Quimby said:
All this fuss by this Nasty Party on the Fire and Rehire on poorer contracts by P & O and yet not a word when British Gas did it just a short while ago.

And voting against the practice just a few days ago.
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....not voting against...?
 
MillionMilesAway said:
That graph is damning.

Unsurprising, Zahawi didn't answer the question but went for the much loved Big Numbers Quoting that the ministers love. Claiming that the austerity was important because of what's happened with covid may have some merit, but doesn't answer why education was shredded as that graph shows.
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And it’s incredible that most private schools are still ‘charities’ and therefore have a favourable tax status - rate relief, no VAT on fees as well as the few hundred million a year the govt grants to armed forces and diplomats to cover private boarding fees when their children could go to much cheaper state boarding school & all supposedly not for profit (Eton cleared £28m last year & has endowments and investments worth £500m).

Those schools & fee paying parents then cry they save the taxpayer millions because their children don’t have to be educated by the state. A specious argument.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Yours is a highly paid job compared to many so aligning it to academia seems normal for what the Conservatives want.

Hope it works out with the pension business. We’ve had ours changed twice in the last 20 years and, as always, it’s never for the better.
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Train drivers' pay got a huge boost from privatisation. The individual operating companies forgot to operate a cartel and had to compete with each other for skilled drivers (and they'd lost a system whereby you progressed from local trains and freight to expresses and the "top link").
 
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Zinchilla said:
And it’s incredible that most private schools are still ‘charities’ and therefore have a favourable tax status - rate relief, no VAT on fees as well as the few hundred million a year the govt grants to armed forces and diplomats to cover private boarding fees when their children could go to much cheaper state boarding school & all supposedly not for profit (Eton cleared £28m last year & has endowments and investments worth £500m).

Those schools & fee paying parents then cry they save the taxpayer millions because their children don’t have to be educated by the state. A specious argument.
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One of the many failures of the Blair years - pander to richer supporters rather than remove the farcical privileges these schools for the already privileged enjoy
 
bluethrunthru said:
interesting to see how Sunak is able to hammer the nails into his leadership coffin lid from INSIDE said coffin

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"There is no personal loan to an individual. This isn't about, you borrowed money, you pay it back. So if you're living at home with parents and you move out in two years' time, even though you didn't get the £200, your bill will still be £40 higher – every household will be charged £40 more. You'll simply get your energy bill and it will be higher because of this levy and the one this October will be lower." (Martin Lewis)
 
And a suitable moment to recount the story of the new railway manager with a degree in zoology and psychology.

"So every time we get an elephant hiding in a tunnel, he can talk it out."
 
Vic said:
"There is no personal loan to an individual. This isn't about, you borrowed money, you pay it back. So if you're living at home with parents and you move out in two years' time, even though you didn't get the £200, your bill will still be £40 higher – every household will be charged £40 more. You'll simply get your energy bill and it will be higher because of this levy and the one this October will be lower." (Martin Lewis)
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Their mirrors are cracking the smoke is dissipating - 2022 is shaping up to be a bad year for the Conservatives
 
bluethrunthru said:
One of the many failures of the Blair years - pander to richer supporters rather than remove the farcical privileges these schools for the already privileged enjoy
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In part yes, but I think there were many things in society that couldn’t be touched because the Tory media would’ve been ready to slaughter them. You can see it now - Lisa Nandy getting in a tangle on question time last week about visas for Ukrainian refugees. There’s a fear that if they don’t have a few daily Mail values on show they will get hammered by the press and viewed with suspicion by a big chunk of the electorate. So, going off on a tangent the biggest mistake of the early noughties was not going for proportional representation and neutering the Tories forever and getting away from the damnation of 35% of voters perpetuating this shit show.

getting back to private education, in fairness to the Blair and Brown govts, trying to untangle a century of lobbying and legislation - e.g grandparents or any relative not a parent can receive tax relief on school fees - designed to protect the elite is not easy!
 
Vic said:
"There is no personal loan to an individual. This isn't about, you borrowed money, you pay it back. So if you're living at home with parents and you move out in two years' time, even though you didn't get the £200, your bill will still be £40 higher – every household will be charged £40 more. You'll simply get your energy bill and it will be higher because of this levy and the one this October will be lower." (Martin Lewis)
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And, if next years would have been even higher than this, presumably he’ll be putting £300 in and expecting £60 out? By 2027 there could be an extra £500+ on everyone’s bills!
 
Vic said:
www.theguardian.com

‘Do you think people are stupid?’ Sunak shrugged. Of course he did | John Crace

Sunak veered from the fantasy that he was cutting taxes to cold hard reality when admitting Brexit has made the UK poorer
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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I have seen a lot of that - he is something like 5 years in to a parliamentary career and it fucking showed - promoted beyond his abilities but supported Brexit and Johnson (note past tense in ref to support ) now being hung out to dry to protect Johnsons sorry carcass
 
mat said:
When I joined the railway it was a place where as long as you passed the relevant tests you got the role. Regardless of academics or your background.

Elitism is now creeping in. HR have "group standards" that train drivers must be "Up to a degree standard in education."

Some who are drivers now wouldn't have got the job under these new rules. They literally started as Carriage Cleaners and worked their way up.

The workers are being torified. The Bastards know this and will call us out soon to defend our pensions. Expect the drip feed shortly about "gold plated pensions hampering any railway investment..."

My industry is about to face it's miners strike. Whether theres enough people willing to fight cuts is a different matter.
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I don't think its elitism, not all the time anyway. It's often because it's an easy way to cut out thousands of applicants. Train driver jobs are perhaps the best example of this because that job will get thousands of applicants per job so the recruiting company can be very picky as they can't interview thousands of people.

It's the same at our company, the company has been trying to drive up competency so now you have to achieve chartership to progress to engineering management. Chartership however requires a degree and significant experience or a masters. Apply those rules today to everyone though and we'd lose half of our existing engineering management...

It's population demographics that are driving all of this because 50% of those under 30 now have a degree and it's rising. It isn't torification, it's the reality of the jobs market and I doubt that 50% of under 30's are rich middle-class tories.
 
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Boris will be laughing his bollocks off.

Ukraine has all but killed partygate. MPs know he's fucked up but won't put their letters in because "It unpatriotic during an international crisis."
 
looking out of my front window my car is on the drive and I can see 3 other cars parked on the street - are they mine? Asking for a mate called Rishi.........
 
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