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His parents were born in the UK. His grandmother and grandfather on his mums side were immigrants with his grandmother selling her wedding rings to fund their move.

Less is known about his father’s side, his father’s father was an accountant and his father’s parents emigrated to the UK (Liverpool) in 1966.

Uneducated no, skint? Maybe. Do you only advocate for an immigration policy that allows the skint and uneducated in?

You must be mixing him up with another of the Asian descent Tories.

His father was born in Nairobi and his mother was born in Tanganyika.

 
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It always amazes me that some complain about all this immigration when 95% of them are invited and a further 75% of the other 5% have rights under international law.

So, all this fuss over 2% of immigration and to the tunes of 10s of billions.

Because that's the socially acceptable form of their racism and xenophobia. They can hide behind that it's just anti-immigration.

The most anti-immigration places in the UK are places with low immigration and places locals can't wait to move away from.
 
Because that's the socially acceptable form of their racism and xenophobia. They can hide behind that it's just anti-immigration.

The most anti-immigration places in the UK are places with low immigration and places locals can't wait to move away from.
Could be but I do know some who have genuine concerns that the country is overcrowded and with public funds the way they are, we can’t afford to accommodate many more.

I always use the same arguments of ‘What the reality is, not what the media says’ and that ‘If we had an industrial plan instead of a government who just want to fleece your money’, and they usually work. For a while, anyway.
 
Could be but I do know some who have genuine concerns that the country is overcrowded and with public funds the way they are, we can’t afford to accommodate many more.

Have you raised the topic of immigrants who are doctors, nurses or social workers in response?

We can't afford not to have immigration.

I always use the same arguments of ‘What the reality is, not what the media says’ and that ‘If we had an industrial plan instead of a government who just want to fleece your money’, and they usually work. For a while, anyway.

Our shitty low wage,ow innovation economy is one of the big pull factors for illegal immigration by the boat people who will pay back their smugglers with black market jobs but also legal immigration.

Without the lack of investment and driving down wages, we wouldn't have had unrestricted immigration for social care workers (including people on low wages and part time contracts).
 
Do you only advocate for an immigration policy that allows the skint and uneducated in?
Not sure how you’ve extrapolated that from what I’ve posted.

I advocate for cunts who went to schools like Winchester and who clearly have had a hugely privileged upbringing not pontificating about others who are seeking to escape misery in a way that his immediate family plainly never had to.

Sunak does this when he plays the card of his own ‘legitimate’ route to UK citizenship with the manifest opportunities it has provided him.

His own family circumstances are wholly incongruous with people he unilaterally seeks to compare himself with.

In short, he is a rat-faced ****.
 
Not sure how you’ve extrapolated that from what I’ve posted.

I advocate for cunts who went to schools like Winchester and who clearly have had a hugely privileged upbringing not pontificating about others who are seeking to escape misery in a way that his immediate family plainly never had to.

Sunak does this when he plays the card of his own ‘legitimate’ route to UK citizenship with the manifest opportunities it has provided him.

His own family circumstances are wholly incongruous with people he unilaterally seeks to compare himself with.

In short, he is a rat-faced ****.

His comments today about the deaths in the channel showed why the Rwanda scheme was needed were utterly appalling
 
Have you raised the topic of immigrants who are doctors, nurses or social workers in response?

We can't afford not to have immigration.



Our shitty low wage,ow innovation economy is one of the big pull factors for illegal immigration by the boat people who will pay back their smugglers with black market jobs but also legal immigration.

Without the lack of investment and driving down wages, we wouldn't have had unrestricted immigration for social care workers (including people on low wages and part time contracts).
Yep, just a few of my points, mate.
 
His parents were born in the UK. His grandmother and grandfather on his mums side were immigrants with his grandmother selling her wedding rings to fund their move.

Less is known about his father’s side, his father’s father was an accountant and his father’s parents emigrated to the UK (Liverpool) in 1966.

Uneducated no, skint? Maybe. Do you only advocate for an immigration policy that allows the skint and uneducated in?
His parents were not born in the UK. His father was born in Kenya and his mother was born in Tanganyika. His parents and his grandparents were all economic migrants who all came to the UK ‘for a better life’. They must all be so proud of him, knowing he’d be telling them to fuck off back home, if they tried it today.…
 
Not sure how you’ve extrapolated that from what I’ve posted.

I advocate for cunts who went to schools like Winchester and who clearly have had a hugely privileged upbringing not pontificating about others who are seeking to escape misery in a way that his immediate family plainly never had to.

Sunak does this when he plays the card of his own ‘legitimate’ route to UK citizenship with the manifest opportunities it has provided him.

His own family circumstances are wholly incongruous with people he unilaterally seeks to compare himself with.

In short, he is a rat-faced ****.

No idea how I extrapolated that from this mate….

I’d be happy to lay a pound to a pinch of shit that his family weren’t uneducated and skint when they arrived in this country, unlike many of the poor souls trying to escape poverty and persecution who this **** wants to deport to Rwanda.

Why mention immigrants access to means or lack thereof. If stories are to be believed those crossing on proverbial inflatable Loch Ness monsters pay a pretty penny.

Not to mention the premise of wanting to escape poverty alone as a valid reason for letting people in. Clumsy at best. A world without borders is a fine concept, pitch that idea, don’t dress it up as altruism. I find this church of the left hypocritical on this, on one hand open the borders and allow people in “no human is illegal” and all those heartfelt slogans, but when it comes to the high energy costs demand the government steps in so people can carry on using the same energy without concern for those in countries whose governments can’t afford to do so - rather than using less as a way of reducing prices for everyone not just the “I’m all right jacks”.

I’ll conclude by noting your lack of recognition for your complete misrepresentation of his families circumstances. You’re letting your hatred, not your obvious intelligence, post.
 
His parents were not born in the UK. His father was born in Kenya and his mother was born in Tanganyika. His parents and his grandparents were all economic migrants who all came to the UK ‘for a better life’. They must all be so proud of him, knowing he’d be telling them to fuck off back home, if they tried it today.…

You’re right, his parents were born in colonial Africa and came here with his grandparents. Apologies.

There reasons for coming is irrelevant. I imagine at the time we were begging people to come and I’ve no issues with people coming for a better life - I doubt many people have. That usually does limit it to skilled professionals outside of those being permitted entry due to persecution - which should be dealt with at our embassies and consulates in the first safe country they arrive in. We were known as a fair country but that’s been eroded over the last 20+ years with illegal wars and an immigration policy that’s appears heartless to those in need of sanctuary.
 
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Did Dowden get rinsed by Rayner in PMs Qs today?

And, just watching Sunak who says are Defence tech is the best in the world. How can somebody lie so bad that they can’t even see that all our equipment, especially our armour, is well past it or non-equistant?

Moving to 2.5% is an understatement, we’re that poorly equipped that we couldn’t mount a battle against Luxembourg.
 
Did Dowden get rinsed by Rayner in PMs Qs today?

And, just watching Sunak who says are Defence tech is the best in the world. How can somebody lie so bad that they can’t even see that all our equipment, especially our armour, is well past it or non-equistant?

Moving to 2.5% is an understatement, we’re that poorly equipped that we couldn’t mount a battle against Luxembourg.

They'll be cleaning bits of Dowden out of the benches for a while. Rayner didn't hold back, but shouldn't have referred to Sunak as a pint-sized loser, accurate though it may be.

There was a bit of a dingdong over the Conservatives obstructing the no-fault eviction laws. Mostly Dowden was his usual whiny self trotting out rubbish.

There was the usual train of Conservatives standing up to abuse Labour mayors and Dowden praising the crook Houchen - is there an election coming up? Gullis had the first question and ranted for about 3 minutes before he was told to shut up by the Speaker.
 
None of these policies make sense at all whichever way we do it. They're costly schemes that go to attack an issue that actually is not really an issue, we're talking about less than 50,000 people per year, less than 10% of total immigration. It has been made into an issue purely because of the negativity and costs involved, costs that are a result of Tory policy and the shambolic public sector.

You only have to look into where most of the costs come from, they come from housing and feeding people whilst applications are processed, that's it. Slow application processing isn't because there are too many applications, it's because the policy is purposely complicated and the Home Office isn't resourced to do the work.

Rwanda vastly increases the costs even more by adding an extra step in the process, ie, people are sent somewhere after being processed. All they're hoping is that it will act as a deterrent and so it will reduce costs in the long run because less will come over but there's no evidence of this.

Why not just accelerate the application process so that it becomes cheaper? As some claim, if migrants are here for a free lunch then why not remove it by ensuring that applications are processed faster? Those people are then released into the wild and well that in itself will act as a deterrent.

Either way it makes no sense that we pay so much and obsess over such a tiny percentage of immigration. It represents less than 10% of immigration and yet nobody is doing a single thing about the other 90%.
Well, quite. More clerks at £35k a year processing applications and you wouldn't need judges hearing appeals at £135k a year.
 
To be fair it is a problem but whether it's a big problem is just a point of view. I often read that we need to work with the EU but the EU hasn't been able to address their own problem in Europe either.

Basically there's no solution other than to ask whether it is actually a priority? It is currently costing us a fortune but that can be stopped because the biggest costs come down to choices.

The government has for example chosen to pay to put migrants in hotels because it refuses to process applications fast enough. Soon it will pay tons of money to both process applications and then send people to Rwanda.

They could quite easily change that policy, process applications 10x faster and not send people to Rwanda, the costs would be MUCH smaller because we wouldn't need hotels etc. We would have to accept 50,00 people per year but that's nothing in the grand scheme of immigration and until Rwanda comes into play we would still be accepting them all for the most part anyway.
Can they drive a bus, lay bricks, pick crops, empty bedpans or any of the other shortage occupations that don't pay the minimum pay level for getting a visa?
 

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