#8 | Ilkay Gündoğan - 2020/21 Performances

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Can't we just not have a thread about him this year and pretend he doesn't exist, given that's how he plays in the majority of games.

Thought is was usual to criticise a player's performance after a game but before they have played seems a little extreme .

Perhaps not so on BM .
 
He helped bring a little bit of needed composure to proceedings when introduced,we were mainly on the front foot so he did what he does best and kept the ball moving.

Coming on in the final stages i feel is very much his best role.
 
He was a perfect sub to bring on. Sured up the midfield and our grasp on the game. Arsenal were generally inept in attacking in the second half so it was good to see him come and grab control.
 
Pep likes him for his la pausa, which no other player in the team has. Unfortunately for Gundo, he's been asked to take over from Silva, possibly one of the greatest players to possess that particular skill to have played in England.
 
Pep likes him for his la pausa, which no other player in the team has. Unfortunately for Gundo, he's been asked to take over from Silva, possibly one of the greatest players to possess that particular skill to have played in England.
Who has asked him to take over from Silva?

I must’ve missed that question.

he’s part of the squad, with a certain skill set the manager admires.

He does a decent job for me.
 
Do you realise other teams arn't as good as Liverpool and Real. Sometimes we cant dominate and have to try and counter what the other team do. Gundogan is not the main creator, he is the recycler for our other more creative players. Against teams who play similar to us and keep the ball well, we need players who also keep the ball well. If we have the ball, the other team cant score and those 5 yard passes backwards sideways wherever keep the ball moving and away from their players. The ball does the work and the other team have to counter where the ball moves too. That conserves our energy and drains there energy. That Is why possession is so important. It is harder to defend without the ball as the whole team is playing and reacting against one man at a time. That makes space because you are pulling opposition players across the park, your own players can almost stand still or ghost into areas where the opposition team have vacated.

As for Aouar. the as time I looked he doesn't play for us so I don't know why he is even being spoke about as this is not fantasy football and from what I have seen he wouldn't do the job Gundogan does anyway. He is a good player yes, but so is Pogba and even Henderson but neither would be right for us because they don't play the way Gundogan does.

There is a real misconception that every midfielder has to be able to be a world beating passer of the ball, not even the great Barca side had that, they had Busquets doing the job that Gundogan does for us, which is recycle and give it to the more creative players and keep possession. Recycling and winning the ball is two different jobs as well, under Pep we defend from the front and the forward players are the first line of defence, the age of the midfield hard man has gone, you wouldn't see a Gerry Gow in the premier anymore because he was not good enough as a footballer bless him. He was great at winning the ball, but not so good once he had it.

I get our fans need a scapegoat, we have always had one that the fans like to moan about, from Paul Power to Richard Edgehill to Stefan Savic, Gundogan seems the player now in fashion to be the one to moan about. The facts say different though, he plays for Germany who are one best teams on the planet, he plays for City one of the best club teams in the world and still you have to fucking moan and whinge like little girls and play some idealised game of fantasy football in your heads where everyone scores 10 a game and we win ever game 100-0

Now you may not rate him, I have players I don't rate as well as football is a game of opinions, most of which are inconsequential because we have no say who gets picked thank fuck. Don't be a sheep though and follow fashion though, Gundogan might not be Kev but then who is, he might not be Silva but then who is, but what he does he does well and is an integral part of one of the best squads in our history and if he is picked to play I trust the best manager in our history has a good reason to pick him. You may not, that is fine, but to be honest I prefer the tactical nous of a man who has won loads of trophies over some kids who once won the FA Cup playing FIFA 2006.

Have fun everyone and keep smiling :))
BANG ON THE FUCKING MONEY. Especially the scapegoat point. And in any event what the fuck have Pep Guardiola and Joachim Low achieved in football when compared to the knowledgeable knicker wetters of Bluedoom?
 
Who has asked him to take over from Silva?

I must’ve missed that question.

he’s part of the squad, with a certain skill set the manager admires.

He does a decent job for me.

Takeover is maybe the wrong term. We used to have two players with that quality, and now we only have one, and Pep values it to the extent he'd prefer someone on the pitch who brings it with him.
 
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