The idiocy (and selfishness) of panic buying

[BerkshireBlue]

That's right the trade press are funded by the Tories

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who just happens to have been part of a conservative transport team.
Case closed.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

So, fuel duty is taxed at around 60% of the pump price in the uk. The price per litre is currently high at over £1.30 per litre of petrol. Have the government come up with a cunning plan to generate tons of money for HMRC quickly by saying there is no fuel shortage, knowing full well that everyone would go out and fill up following the toilet roll fiasco last year??

No, because there is no extra fuel being bought is there. Its the same amount, just all at once instead of spread across when people usually fill up.

 

[VOOMER]

funded by the tories no doubt. Funny isn't it that these figures just turn up. I bet Germany and Poland haven't lost 15,000 drivers just because of Brexit though have they, in fact they've probably gained drivers because of it. Plus those conutries they have no visible effects unlike the UK. If it looks like Brexit, smells like Brexit, tastes like Brexit then it's Brexit causing the issue. Every company has said Brexit is the issue

They still want to pay shit wages for a fairly dangerous and demanding job, as they have done for 40 years.

 

[meltonblue]

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who just happens to have been part of a conservative transport team.
Case closed.

To be fair though, that same organisation also explained why the driver shortfall was more impacting here than elsewhere (due to issues Brexit also created)

There’s a Europe-wide HGV driver shortage. So why do UK supply chains seem more disrupted?

There’s a Europe-wide HGV driver shortage. So why do UK supply chains seem more disrupted?

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[VOOMER]

We’re going to have to rely on other countries to help us out for the foreseeable future as we don’t have the infrastructure or skilled people to do the relevant jobs after we chose a services-based economy.

We’ll never be able to grow enough food to sustain ourselves.

How many countries don’t rely on other countries in some form? North Korea, maybe?

It’s folly to suggest we should go down that route.

What utter bollocks

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

What utter bollocks

Constructive as ever, Mr Voomer.

 

[BerkshireBlue]

They still want to pay shit wages for a fairly dangerous and demanding job, as they have done for 40 years.

exactly why would any EU national want to come to this country when they can get better wages and conditions elsewhere now. You have to be attractive as a country and quite frankly the UK isn't. Low wages, high house prices, poor working conditions, red tape for imports, high cost of food, RPI out of control, you name its just a shite state of affairs

 

[BlueHammer85]

In reality all this will blow over by the end of the week and some dickheads will have spent all day queuing up at the petrol station to pay well over the odds for fuel they didn't even need.

I've got about half a tank left, I'll fill up this time next week probably when I need it, like a normal person.

I don't think most normal people can go a week with half a tank.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Absolutely nothing to do with Brexit

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

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who just happens to have been part of a conservative transport team.
Case closed.

Figures were from a variety of sources including the International Road Transport Union, RHA, American Trucking Association and China Road Transport Association - close very much open. To say that we are the only country with a shortage of HGV drivers is blinkered to say the least but you go ahead and spout whatever you want.

 

[fulabeer]

 

[BerkshireBlue]

Figures were from a variety of sources including the International Road Transport Union, RHA, American Trucking Association and China Road Transport Association - close very much open. To say that we are the only country with a shortage of HGV drivers is blinkered to say the least but you go ahead and spout whatever you want.

So you think getting rid of 15,000 HGV drivers was a good thing for the country and it has had no impact of the current HGV shortage problems?

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

I don't think most normal people can go a week with half a tank.

Some may say I'm normal and I go every week on half a tank

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

So you think getting rid of 15,000 HGV drivers was a good thing for the country and it has had no impact of the current HGV shortage problems?

Voting to leave the EU was, IMO, the wrong thing to do, that though wasn't the government's fault. Then COVID came along, again not the fault of the government. Can the government do something now to address the imbalance, very possibly but companies themselves have to start taking responsibility and stop blaming others for their shortcomings. Why is there a backlog of HGV tests still?

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Voting to leave the EU was, IMO, the wrong thing to do, that though wasn't the government's fault.

Of course it was the government's fault. How is not the government's fault?

 

[oldius]

Of course it was the government's fault. How is not the government's fault?

It absolutely was the government's fault - not only did they offer the referendum, but they also then talked up 'leave' and told lies about the consequence of doing so.

 

[NJ Blue]

No, because there is no extra fuel being bought is there. Its the same amount, just all at once instead of spread across when people usually fill up.

I didn’t say extra fuel being bought. Although it is possible that people are filling up fully whereas normally they might only put a smaller amount in at a time.

 

[mexico1970]

Went to M&S an hour ago and there were no chilies no 3 cheese pasta ravioli and no pre-sliced garlic bread.

I don't know how we are going to cope.

 

[xgorton]

Voting to leave the EU was, IMO, the wrong thing to do, that though wasn't the government's fault. Then COVID came along, again not the fault of the government. Can the government do something now to address the imbalance, very possibly but companies themselves have to start taking responsibility and stop blaming others for their shortcomings. Why is there a backlog of HGV tests still?

Brexit wasn't the government's fault,FFS you people are unbelievable.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

15,000 HGV drivers have left the country due to Brexit. Of course it's the major issue

More than that have retired over the last few years. And those 15k going back into the Euro pot haven’t made a blind bit of difference to their shortage of drivers. There’s also huge shortages of drivers in Asia and North America.