The Labour Government

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Any withdrawal symptoms?

No, because I’m now getting my hate-fix from the US Presidential Election.

 

[Gray]

Depends who the alternative is and, if it’s the same bunch as just dry bummed, I don’t think Labour will be worried

You do realise don’t you that the British voter is a fickle beast. If they are not best pleased with the incumbent for whatever reason, they will vote for the other main party just to punish the sitting one.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

No, because I’m now getting my hate-fix from the US Presidential Election.

You’re just kicking the can down the line. What happens after November?

 

[mosssideblue]

You do realise don’t you that the British voter is a fickle beast. If they are not best pleased with the incumbent for whatever reason, they will vote for the other main party just to punish the sitting one.

Maybe

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You’re just kicking the can down the line. What happens after November?

I’ve thought of little else of late…

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

You do realise don’t you that the British voter is a fickle beast. If they are not best pleased with the incumbent for whatever reason, they will vote for the other main party just to punish the sitting one.

What a truly amazing electoral system we have.

 

[Chippy_boy]

I used to fly business class in the 1980s and 1990s to the US

Ah, you will be one of the super rice who has to "pay his fair share" of taxation to come. (Implication being it was not a fair share previously).

 

[west didsblue]

Prices move in line with demand? Would never have thought of that one. Still doesn’t change the fact that he flew first class given the figures involved.

I do like your little jibe about ‘if you ever travelled anywhere on business’ though. Touchingly naive.

I see you’re doubling down even after I proved you wrong.
In case you missed it £8k buys a first class one way ticket tomorrow to Washington DC. A return is £16k.
£6k in 2010 was clearly much more likely to be a business class ticket.
You’d get more respect if you admitted you were wrong sometimes rather than continuing to post nonsense that’s easily demonstrated to be nonsense by looking at the BA website.

 

[west didsblue]

Ah, you will be one of the super rice who has to "pay his fair share" of taxation to come. (Implication being it was not a fair share previously).

I prefer pilau rice to super rice myself.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Depends who the alternative is and, if it’s the same bunch as just dry bummed, I don’t think Labour will be worried

Make ZERO mistake. There's two reasons Starmer won, and won a 170 seat majority at that.

1. Because people were truly pissed off and especially, bored with 14 years of Tory government and wanted a change, and

2. Because the right vote was split down the middle between Tory and Reform, whereas the left vote was not. Had there been a unified party on the right, Starmer might not even be PM right now, which given (1) is TRULY remarkable.

He is the most unpopular Labour leader to ever win a GE, and surely this will be his last and only stab at it.

 

[west didsblue]

Make ZERO mistake. There's two reasons Starmer won, and won a 170 seat majority at that.

1. Because people were truly pissed off and especially, bored with 14 years of Tory government and wanted a change, and

2. Because the right vote was split down the middle between Tory and Reform, whereas the left vote was not. Had there been a unified party on the right, Starmer might not even be PM right now, which given (1) is TRULY remarkable.

He is the most unpopular Labour leader to ever win a GE, and surely this will be his last and only stab at it.

Three things wrong with that analysis. Plenty of ‘traditional Labour voters’ voted Reform so if they weren’t there, their votes wouldn’t all necessarily have gone to the Tories.
Secondly, in terms of the popular vote Labour, Lib Dem and Green are all ‘left’ to most people and Labour still won in spite of the ‘left’ vote being split three ways.
Thirdly there was a lot of tactical voting where people voted for the party most likely to beat the Tories, hence the 72 Lib Dem MPs. That suppressed the Labour vote in those constituencies.
So that’s 3 mistakes as far as I can see.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

Three things wrong with that analysis. Plenty of ‘traditional Labour voters’ voted Reform so if they weren’t there, their votes wouldn’t all necessarily have gone to the Tories.
Secondly, in terms of the popular vote Labour, Lib Dem and Green are all ‘left’ to most people and Labour still won in spite of the ‘left’ vote being split three ways.
Thirdly there was a lot of tactical voting where people voted for the party most likely to beat the Tories, hence the 72 Lib Dem MPs. That suppressed the Labour vote in those constituencies.
So that’s 3 mistakes as far as I can see.

How many of those seats were a toss up between Lab 'n Lib?

 

[west didsblue]

Rayner fucking dancing shows so little respect for the nation , bet Nick Ferrari and Rees Mogg are fuming .

Funnily enough it was Dorries who said that Rayner’s dancing demeaned her office. That would be the former “I’m a Celebrity” contestant from 2012 who abandoned her responsibilities as an MP then and again last year. No hypocrisy at all!

 

[mexico1970]

Should turn the heating off in the house of commons from Dec 1st to Feb 1st so they have to deal with the cold too.

 

[mosssideblue]

Make ZERO mistake. There's two reasons Starmer won, and won a 170 seat majority at that.

1. Because people were truly pissed off and especially, bored with 14 years of Tory government and wanted a change, and

2. Because the right vote was split down the middle between Tory and Reform, whereas the left vote was not. Had there been a unified party on the right, Starmer might not even be PM right now, which given (1) is TRULY remarkable.

He is the most unpopular Labour leader to ever win a GE, and surely this will be his last and only stab at it.

It will be I agree. He will step down after a min of two terms

 

[west didsblue]

How many of those seats were a toss up between Lab 'n Lib?

None that I can find. All their new seats were gains from the Conservatives or SNP where those parties came second.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

An easy popular win for the new government would be to outlaw resale of any tickets for more than their original sale price.

The only people that wouldn't be happy with this are the touts like Viagogo and those that arnt interested in the events in the first place and just want to make a quick buck by exploiting others. Comon Starmer sort it.

 

[mosssideblue]

An easy popular win for the new government would be to outlaw resale of any tickets for more than their original sale price.

The only people that wouldn't be happy with this are the touts like Viagogo and those that arnt interested in the events in the first place and just want to make a quick buck by exploiting others. Comon Starmer sort it.

Curious as to how that would be policed

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Curious as to how that would be policed

Inact a law and then fine the websites that allow them to be sold. Sure private sales would be hard if not impossible to police. But the likes of Viagogo and see tickets would be out of buiness in a short matter or time.

 

[mexico1970]

An easy popular win for the new government would be to outlaw resale of any tickets for more than their original sale price.

The only people that wouldn't be happy with this are the touts like Viagogo and those that arnt interested in the events in the first place and just want to make a quick buck by exploiting others. Comon Starmer sort it.

Can't see the government putting the power into the hands of nefarious ticket touts they'd forgo any of the taxes they get right now.

Like every get rich quick scheme the government of the day wants to quantify their pinch.