The Labour Government

[Blue Maverick]

Society cannot get its collective head around the fact that we have lots and lots of absolute cunts living with us cheek by jowl, it only becomes a problem when we don't have anywhere to put them.

In many cases when they are "Fixing" people the people they are fixing are fucking society over. We need places to put them, we need to accept that there will always be people like them but we also need ways to spot the redeemable people caught in the trap.

Dangerous people should never be allowed to see the light of day though.

Have a watch if 24 hours in police custody that aired last night second part is tonight, personally I’d line the lot up and shoot them absolutely no contribution to anything and a drain on everyone, they are so far gone the only good outlook is they pop their clogs early from an overdose.

 

[Phil1]

This WFA debacle reminds me of the City disabled parking issue.
A really unpopular and in many respects unnecessary policy that brings little financial gain but looks awful to the general public.
Not great and certainly an issue worthy of complaint.
I’m still 100% sure that Labour are the better of the two main party’s but they have scored an OG here.

 

[mexico1970]

Have a watch if 24 hours in police custody that aired last night second part is tonight, personally I’d line the lot up and shoot them absolutely no contribution to anything and a drain on everyone, they are so far gone the only good outlook is they pop their clogs early from an overdose.

I'm a tad off the right of center but that would be a little too harsh for me, let's have a referendum.

 

[LangleyBlue1970]

This decision to cut fuel payments, is it to fix damage done by past government?

 

[Vic]

Ad Hominem​

(Attacking the person): This occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument.

Because you know that you are trying to defend the indefensible.
Crack on fella!

So you were serious that "Labour lefties" (Name calling) want to kill pensioners. Or was that Hyperbole? Worse, you thought I might need to know what Ad Hominem meant.

 

[PPT]

So you were serious that "Labour lefties" (Name calling) want to kill pensioners. Or was that Hyperbole? Worse, you thought I might need to know what Ad Hominem meant.

Crack on fella!

 

[PPT]

I do try and miss them when I can

touché

:-)

 

[Really_here]

This Labour government is a reincarnation of Tony Bliar's goverment. "We'll say anything required to win power" . Once we're in then forget it.

 

[Vic]

I agree but we dont know what the legal position is and how difficult it is to get their countries to take them back

Actually i think i saw starmer or yvette saying they have sent loads back already , i will google and get a link if i can

Wasn't that people who were in the Tories' asylum backlog that have had their asylum claim heard and refused?

 

[kaz7]

Wasn't that people who were in the Tories' asylum backlog that have had their asylum claim heard and refused?

I think it was said by labour that they have send people away already , i might have dreamt it , will look for it tomorrow

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

This Labour government is a reincarnation of Tony Bliar's goverment. "We'll say anything required to win power" . Once we're in then forget it.

As opposed to “let’s get Brexit done, we’ll build 40 new hospitals, 300,000 new homes a year, reducing health inequality, end rough sleeping, ban no-fault evictions”, from the truthful party?

 

[mexico1970]

As opposed to “let’s get Brexit done, we’ll build 40 new hospitals, 300,000 new homes a year, reducing health inequality, end rough sleeping, ban no-fault evictions”, from the truthful party?

To be fair nobody is defending the Tories, it's just that Labour should be so much more no?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

To be fair nobody is defending the Tories, it's just that Labour should be so much more no?

I agree but he did liken Starmer to Blair for duplicity, suggesting that Cameron (Osborne), May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak were paragons of truth and honesty.

 

[metalblue]

They have no choice but to free up prison places , the tories let them drop to a hundred in the whole country., What do labour do ? The police have to be able to arrest criminals and the courts send some to prison, without that happening might as well decriminalise everything

I get the logic to why they let them out. They just don’t seem to have joined the dots and given the right amount of time to probation services to find them places to live etc.

There was a good discussion on R5 today where they were saying that building new prisons is incredibly hard, funding being the hardest part as you’re competing for funds that would otherwise go to build a new hospital or schools, politicians love a photo op in a hard hat outside them… a little less sexy when they do it outside a prison.

 

[Vic]

I do try and miss them when I can

I might have given that a like if PPT hadn't.

 

[mexico1970]

I agree but he did liken Starmer to Blair for duplicity, suggesting that Cameron (Osborne), May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak were paragons of truth and honesty.

Just quoting and mentioning these politicians and the one who is in power right now tells us that we are pretty fucked, do you know what? I'd have preferred the evil Uncle Corbyn to this shower of shit.

At least the dodgy old bastard didn't lie about hating this country :)

 

[bluenova]

This Labour government is a reincarnation of Tony Bliar's goverment. "We'll say anything required to win power" . Once we're in then forget it.

There was a fact check on the BBC website of the first Blair government's manifesto.

They had done the vast majority of what they said they'd do, by the end of their first term.

Not sure it's even remotely possible to argue they haven't done things after 2 months, and without a first budget.

 

[Vic]

To be fair nobody is defending the Tories, it's just that Labour should be so much more no?

Well, if it's about whose pension cuts cause the most excess deaths, here's the Tory entrant:

One WASPI woman affected by State Pension inequality dies every 13 minutes: 'Time is not on our side'

The Women Against State Pension Inequality (WASPI) campaign has warned the Government that it must act now and award compensation to victims of the state pension age scandal.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[hampshireblue]

Cunts are giving interviews out like they have just been emancipated from Guantanamo, now the criminals are the victims.

Thanks Labour.

I'm not sure the system was OK on July 3rd and suddenly has been broken since then.

Just to put it into context:

Anyone on a sentence of more than 4 years is not eligible for this, so:

4 years = 1460 days they would normally, before today serve 1460/2 = 730 days. That has now been reduced to 730-20% = 584 days. So a prisoner who is released on day 1 of a 4 years sentence would benefit by being released early by 146 days.

The vast majority of those released will have already served a major chunk of their sentence so many will have been due for release in the near future anyway. I'm not saying it is right that they have to do this, but short of producing additional places out of thin air, they're caught between a rock and a hard place-and little to none of it is anyone's fault but the Conservatives.

 

[mexico1970]

Well, if it's about whose pension cuts cause the most excess deaths, here's the Tory entrant:

One WASPI woman affected by State Pension inequality dies every 13 minutes: 'Time is not on our side'

The Women Against State Pension Inequality (WASPI) campaign has warned the Government that it must act now and award compensation to victims of the state pension age scandal.

uk.news.yahoo.com

IMHO women shouldn't have gotten the pension before men anyway, equality when it suited.