The Labour Government

[Vic]

That would be about the basis of council tax - i.e. changing the valuation basis. "No increase in council tax" was in 2023, dropped for the 2024 manifesto so you need to check the date of those promises.

So yes, not that honest.

Tory Councils freezing council tax in the past is one factor in why so many councils are going bankrupt.

 

[Rascal]

You could give France £20Billion to occupy Wales and it wouldn't stop some people voting Labour. Like I said, for a lot of their voters, it's a cult and they vote for them because they're not the Tories or because their Dad did etc etc...

But for some people, if they've had the building of their local hospital cancelled (sorry 'delayed') or their taxes have risen or benefits cut to pay out billions to Mauritius then they might have longer memories than you think.

France does not have a Labour party

 

[BrianW]

That would be about the basis of council tax - i.e. changing the valuation basis. "No increase in council tax" was in 2023, dropped for the 2024 manifesto so you need to check the date of those promises.

So yes, not that honest.

Tory Councils freezing council tax in the past is one factor in why so many councils are going bankrupt.

Local government finance is bizarre. 99% of the population have no idea how it works.

The problem is it needs financing but any change in the system will be as unpopular as what we have now. So governments tend to steer clear.

My suggestion is that Council Tax and Business Rates should be abolished and the whole shebang financed directly by central government. But then central taxes would have to go up and you'd need to devise an objective system for the distribution of the money. So even this would be fraught with issues, and would likely not make the government popular.

It's too difficult so no government will do anything.

 

[Scottyboi]

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Cheers just sent that to my work WhatsApp group they all think I'm funny as fuck now.

 

[Brewster's millions]

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If the Bank of England’s new forecasts are anywhere near right then I think we could all be going back to 1976 and another sterling crisis.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

lol

Careful, you will be called a wum or a bad faith poster, some will even tell you they will ignore you from now on (even though they won’t) and you will most likely get called a few silly names.

Meanwhile, Council tax bills are set to soar far in excess of inflation and Starmer and his cabinets lies to the electorate.

Inflation as measured by the CPI or RPI.

Not Inflation in the costs of services which they have a statutory obligation to provide.

If you had any idea on how much councils spend on children's placements in residential homes or adult social care, you'd realise how ignorant your comment is.

 

[BigJoe#1]

If the Bank of England’s new forecasts are anywhere near right then I think we could all be going back to 1976 and another sterling crisis.

I'd love another winter of discontent (not).... reckon Labour will be able to facilitate one in time for day November '25. Gotta be a good bet.

 

[Kompany Car]

Inflation as measured by the CPI or RPI.

Not Inflation in the costs of services which they have a statutory obligation to provide.

If you had any idea on how much councils spend on children's placements in residential homes or adult social care, you'd realise how ignorant your comment is.

Yep and it crazy purely because the system is broken and you have businesses profiteering from kids needing care.

There is a wider question however why we are seeing so many needing to be taken into care and with increasingly complex needs.

 

[Vic]

Inflation as measured by the CPI or RPI.

Not Inflation in the costs of services which they have a statutory obligation to provide.

If you had any idea on how much councils spend on children's placements in residential homes or adult social care, you'd realise how ignorant your comment is.

And after double figures inflation post-Truss when council tax increases were half the inflation rate.

 

[BlueHammer85]

All part and parcel of the fully costed manifesto for growth that will super charge the British economy.

It will, honest it will…

Meantime interest rates dropping down to lowest level in a few years … that will help growth in the economy which you wouldn’t give Labour any credit for anyway.

 

[Hertzblue]

Nobody, other than Starmer, cares about those resolutions or judgments, they're advisory for a reason and that's why most countries ignore them which is what we should have done here.

Instead British taxpayers are having to borrow billions to pay off a sum when their quality of life is being decimated at home with tax rises, bill rises, and spending cuts. Absolute madness.

I agree.
Here is a note from Dominic Cummings on the matter.
We don't have to do anything on this.
Seems Johnson didn't have the balls or couldn't be arsed most likely to deal with it so asked Cleverly to look into it and he just kicked the can down the road.
Starmer chooses to do something about it because he is lawyer not a politician and Lammy is getting off on his anti colonial reparations hobby horse.

 

[Vic]

I agree.
Here is a note from Dominic Cummings on the matter.
We don't have to do anything on this.
Seems Johnson didn't have the balls or couldn't be arsed most likely to deal with it so asked Cleverly to look into it and he just kicked the can down the road.
Starmer chooses to do something about it because he is lawyer not a politician and Lammy is getting off on his anti colonial reparations hobby horse.

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Seriously? Dominic Cummings? Deep state?

 

[Hertzblue]

Seriously? Dominic Cummings? Deep state?

It seems he is as familiar with these matters as anyone Vic.If he says he dealt with it in Downing Street why should we doubt him. I don't see anyone disputing his account of events.

 

[Vic]

It seems he is as familiar with these matters as anyone Vic.If he says he dealt with it in Downing Street why should we doubt him. I don't see anyone disputing his account of events.

I dispute that there is a deep state.

Goof grief, you don't need to know much about Cummings to know that he might be lying.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

That tweet from Dominic Cummings reads like it was written while he was taking a shit in Wetherspoons after 10 pints and a chat with the locals about “common sense”.

 

[blueinsa]

Meantime interest rates dropping down to lowest level in a few years … that will help growth in the economy which you wouldn’t give Labour any credit for anyway.

Help growth?

Tell the “experts” whose words you hang on most days it will help with growth because most think we are pretty fucked.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Help growth?

Tell the “experts” whose words you hang on most days it will help with growth because most think we are pretty fucked.

The growth forecast is pretty poor and it looks like inflation may be on the rise again, so it wouldn't surprise me if interest rates may be slow to come down further or even rise again.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

The growth forecast is pretty poor and it looks like inflation may be on the rise again, so it wouldn't surprise me if interest rates may be slow to come down further or even rise again.

Labour's naive autumn budget could well push up inflation in the spring.

 

[Vic]

Help growth?

Tell the “experts” whose words you hang on most days it will help with growth because most think we are pretty fucked.

Why would falling interest rates not help growth? For many companies, especially SMEs, it's at least as important as labour costs.

 

[KDB Fan]

I agree.
Here is a note from Dominic Cummings on the matter.
We don't have to do anything on this.
Seems Johnson didn't have the balls or couldn't be arsed most likely to deal with it so asked Cleverly to look into it and he just kicked the can down the road.
Starmer chooses to do something about it because he is lawyer not a politician and Lammy is getting off on his anti colonial reparations hobby horse.

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Yep, exactly what I thought it'd be.

I feel sorry for all those who voted Labour in a desperate hope for a better life but have learnt 'there's a £22BN black hole' so bills are going up and taxes are going up, and the money that's left is getting sent to Mauritius plus £11.6bn more for overseas climate aid. They've been done over hook, line, and sinker.