The Labour Government

[hilts]

Not after Nathan Blake's goal it ain't.

Off to Google Nathan Blake:-)

 

[ballbag]

Off to Google Nathan Blake:-)

I'd advise against it. It just opened up old wounds.

 

[ballbag]

Are there any MWGA hats available for sale in Wales yet?

There's only Make Wales Fast Again hats at the moment.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

There's only Make Wales Fast Again hats at the moment.

Coincidentally, Mwga is Welsh for reform.

 

[KDB Fan]

You’d have to put a salary limit or qualification limit on that and it would always have to be fluent to address the gaps in our employment market. (Which is what happens now)

Second point is just weird, although the thought of banning all Americans to ever live here does sound somewhat appealing.

It happens now but with a fraction of the people who come here. Also, there's not an overall cap on migration that manages numbers in line with the infrastructure or homes that can be built.

Not sure the second point is weird, more basic common sense of not granting visas to nationals who are hugely over-represented in the criminal justice statistics. Americans don't make the list from what I can see:

 

[ballbag]

It happens now but with a fraction of the people who come here. Also, there's not an overall cap on migration that manages numbers in line with the infrastructure or homes that can be built.

Not sure the second point is weird, more basic common sense of not granting visas to nationals who are hugely over-represented in the criminal justice statistics. Americans don't make the list from what I can see:

Is that Irish as in Eire, or NI?

 

[bluenova]

That's a failure of your logic then. Over a million people can be coming in (according to the most recent figures), Labour can be loosening controls, and net migration can still fall due to the last Gov't's measures just before they left office.

I think you misread my post.

I said that the implication of the first post I replied to, was that net-migration was going up under Labour. I can't believe anyone would read it, and say "oh, KDB fan, is arguing that immigration is coming down, and it's coming down quickly". If that's what you meant then I apologise, but it appeared that you were implying the opposite.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

It happens now but with a fraction of the people who come here. Also, there's not an overall cap on migration that manages numbers in line with the infrastructure or homes that can be built.

Not sure the second point is weird, more basic common sense of not granting visas to nationals who are hugely over-represented in the criminal justice statistics. Americans don't make the list from what I can see:

So the second point is that you’ll look at the figures of who is on our prisons and where they are from, rather than looking at crime rates in other countries?

Either way, grouping people by nationality seems a little simplistic.

 

[KDB Fan]

It happens now but with a fraction of the people who come here. Also, there's not an overall cap on migration that manages numbers in line with the infrastructure or homes that can be built.

Not sure the second point is weird, more basic common sense of not granting visas to nationals who are hugely over-represented in the criminal justice statistics. Americans don't make the list from what I can see:

It's the Republic although I think a more informative breakdown would be the percentage of FNOs as a proportion of the total number of that nationality here. So Irish citizens would be far lower in any such list presumably and Albania would be even further ahead.

 

[KDB Fan]

So the second point is that you’ll look at the figures of who is on our prisons and where they are from, rather than looking at crime rates in other countries?

Either way, grouping people by nationality seems a little simplistic.

You might call it simplistic, I'd just say it's common sense.

 

[ballbag]

It's the Republic although I think a more informative breakdown would be the percentage of FNOs as a proportion of the total number of that nationality here. So Irish citizens would be far lower in any such list presumably and Albania would be even further ahead.

You could base it off Crime Index. But then the list from the MOJ doesn't really include anyone from the top 20 countries with the highest crime rate by Index. But at least we couldn't ever let Musk in.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You might call it simplistic, I'd just say it's common sense.

Indeed. A simplistic solution to a complex problem.

If Mother Teresa applied for asylum here, she’d get knocked back in your rules because some other Albanians have broken the law.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Indeed. A simplistic solution to a complex problem.

If Mother Teresa applied for asylum here, she’d get knocked back in your rules because some other Albanians have broken the law.

Do we really need Mother Teresa though given that you’re here policing the threads and telling everyone how to behave, whether they’re interested or not?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Do we really need Mother Teresa though given that you’re here policing the threads and telling everyone how to behave, whether they’re interested or not?

Blimey, you’ve gone there again. Not had that in a while.

2/10, poor effort.

Brewster’s trolling needs work to match up to Biff’s.

 

[Brewster's millions]

They were waiting for the surprise news to come out about the economy before they published the five month old story first that would bring a lot of politicians down for what is essentially fraud.

They're a state broadcaster who know they can rely on their licence fee teat as long as the Labour Party are in power.

Don’t disagree with you, but to be fair to the BBC, if they were waiting for some better than expected growth data before publishing the story, then they were in for a long wait.

The fact that the various stooges on here see a 0.1% increase in GDP as ‘good news’, following on from a flat Q3, merely shows how desperate they all are now.

The write-up of her expenses scandal does show her in genuinely terrible light low, and if she had anything about her she’d resign immediately.

She’s a fundamentally dishonest individual.

Quite telling as well that while her former colleagues at the BoE were busy in 2008-09 trying to avert a complete meltdown of the financial system, she was fraudulently spending hundreds of pounds on handbags, perfume and leaving meals. Even while her company had been bailed out by the taxpayer to the tune of £20bn. Remarkable.

 

[KDB Fan]

Indeed. A simplistic solution to a complex problem.

If Mother Teresa applied for asylum here, she’d get knocked back in your rules because some other Albanians have broken the law.

Well let's call it 99.9% then that I wouldn't allow in for the sake of argument.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Well let's call it 99.9% then that I wouldn't allow in for the sake of argument.

Then the plan falls down. How do you judge the 0.1%?

There’d be legal challenges.

 

[KDB Fan]

Then the plan falls down. How do you judge the 0.1%?

There’d be legal challenges.

You remove the politicised immigration tribunals from having any say on UK immigration decisions and let elected politicians decide who form the 0.1%.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You remove the politicised immigration tribunals from having any say on UK immigration decisions and let elected politicians decide who form the 0.1%.

What could possibly go wrong!

 

[Brooklands Blue]

Indeed. A simplistic solution to a complex problem.

If Mother Teresa applied for asylum here, she’d get knocked back in your rules because some other Albanians have broken the law.

If Mother Theresa was still alive today then I'd hope she would be denied asylum. Christopher Hitchens wrote a great book about her which was very well researched and written and painted her in a very poor light. She certainly took donations from some very dubious characters.