The Labour Party

Oldham Exile said:
I think that if the price of getting the Tories out was to commit to a 2nd Indyref - then Labour might cave
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Remember that Scotland is not 100% for independence, it's around 50/50 and it was actually 48/52 in favour of no to independence last year.

If Labour became pro-indy ref then that's 50% of the vote gone and the other 50% will be split with the SNP. If Labour stays neutral then they have access to 100% of the vote and at the moment they're far more likely to win more votes in Scotland than the Tories. They'll also likely win far more seats because they won't be battling the SNP on the independence ticket.

Labour would have to be completely stupid to commit to such a thing, plus it also poses troubling constitutional questions because how can Starmer form a government in the Queens name with a policy to perhaps dissolve the very country it governs?
 
inbetween said:
Remember that Scotland is not 100% for independence, it's around 50/50 and it was actually 48/52 in favour of no to independence last year.

If Labour became pro-indy ref then that's 50% of the vote gone and the other 50% will be split with the SNP. If Labour stays neutral then they have access to 100% of the vote and at the moment they're far more likely to win more votes in Scotland than the Tories. They'll also likely win far more seats because they won't be battling the SNP on the independence ticket.

Labour would have to be completely stupid to commit to such a thing, plus it also poses troubling constitutional questions because how can Starmer form a government in the Queens name with a policy to perhaps dissolve the very country it governs?
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I was meaning that following a GE - Labour might pay the price as part of SNP support to get into power - not that Labour should adopt commitment to an Indyref as a manifesto policy

I agree that would be stupid - especially as I believe that there would be a majority NO vote in any such referendum
 
As it happens, I don't really post on this thread as I dislike the current direction of the party, but I watched a 'talk' on Labour's current position with a phrasing that I've seen on here, a lot.

I haven't, yet, formulated a conclusion from it but, someone may have seen it, posted it or have a comment to say on what transpired:

 
inbetween said:
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Labour would have to be completely stupid to commit to such a thing (2nd indy ref), plus it also poses troubling constitutional questions because how can Starmer form a government in the Queens name with a policy to perhaps dissolve the very country it governs?
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Hardly a problem. The Queen herself agreed to possibly dissolving the country she governs by giving Royal assent to the Scottish Independence Referendum Act 2013.
 
Not going well for Neil Coyle. Last week he was banned from all commons bars for being an aggressive drunk. Now on the back of this has had the whip suspended pending investigation.



Today he's done a sympathy interview on GB news of all places pointing to his troubled upbringing sob sob. My brother lives in China has got to be the lamest 'but I have black friends' ever.
 
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Postman Pep said:
Not going well for Neil Coyle. Last week he was banned from all commons bars for being an aggressive drunk. Now on the back of this has had the whip suspended pending investigation.



Today he's done a sympathy interview on GB news of all places pointing to his troubled upbringing sob sob. My brother lives in China has got to be the lamest 'but I have black friends' ever.
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He's a **** who's attitude belongs to the fascists on the other side.
 
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