The last 15 mins of games...

[Donmcfc]

He did the right thing , if it was on target and the keeper saved it they would have had possession anyway. Absolute nonsense to lay any blame at McAtees door

If we had kept possession of the ball we would have won the game. Absolute nonsense to argue otherwise.

 

[mexico1970]

Anyone saying it's they haven't got the legs need to check our bench out, there are young players who could have run for days but are unused.

 

[Burtonblue]

I would have been just as critical of KDB.

It’s not exactly as him missing the chance directly resulted in a goal.
It would have been more difficult to keep the ball given he was n the middle of the opposition area.
Plenty of shit defending happened in between the missed chance and the goal.
That’s the root of the problem…we can’t defend.
I am far more upset with Gvardiol and Savinho allowing a cross to come in than Mcatee

 

[Xhavenjoe]

Exactly. Either hit the target or keep possession. Don't blast it high and wide because it could cost us two points, which it did.

They scored from their goalkick.
We had loads of time to get players into correct positions.

 

[Donmcfc]

They scored from their goalkick.
We had loads of time to get players into correct positions.

If we had kept the ball they wouldn't have had a goal kick.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

If we had kept the ball they wouldn't have had a goal kick.

We all know that.
How far back do you want to go.
We had loads of opportunities to stop them from scoring.
If Savinho had got tighter and stopped the cross.
, if Akanji hadn't been out jumped by the scorer, if Ortega had got a stronger hand to the header.

They nearly scored a minute later again when Ake cleared the ball from close to our goal line.

 

[blueju]

Everyone has surpassed our game using big,strong, athletic players. We don’t have the likes of Merlin to hold the ball like glue and our destroyer is long term injured in Rodri. There’s no reason we cant once again have the likes of Fernandinho in our midfield to match the physicality and pace of our opponents and still have them playing the Pep philosophy.

 

[Father Paul]

I am absolutely suggesting that a wayward shot cost us two points. To win the game all we needed to do was to keep possession of the ball for a few more minutes. We had seen how Brentford were capable of mounting very dangerous breakaway attacks in the last 20 or so minutes of the game. We had survived thanks to some brilliant defending from Guardiol and Ake but even so we had conceded a late goal. Keep the ball and win the game. Lose possession and drop two points.

While I agree with your point regarding holding on to possession to kill off a game something which we used to be good at. It's ridiculous to suggest that when an opportunity to score presents itself it is ignored in favour of continuing to recycle the ball. I would be highly critical of the actual attempt itself but not the decision to take on the shot. I suggest that you are starting to look silly by doubling down on your point. Time to stop digging.

 

[john blue]

Funny way of backing him

hes not wrong though, in fact he is spot on,

 

[Father Paul]

It has nothing to do with age or legs, it's the mindset and the hunger, Maybe they are not under pressure to produce results because of the past 10 years and 4 in a row. You do get the feeling that it's ok to come up short this season and maybe with injuries there is a reason to fall back on.

100% Pep would never let any of his players ghost in games and still be here if he had more options

Great point. Now do you think that most of our squad are monetarily satisfied? Also completely satiated with respect to achievement. This combined with age for some leads to a kind of inertia and a sense that results don't really matter anymore?

 

[Donmcfc]

While I agree with your point regarding holding on to possession to kill off a game something which we used to be good at. It's ridiculous to suggest that when an opportunity to score presents itself it is ignored in favour of continuing to recycle the ball. I would be highly critical of the actual attempt itself but not the decision to take on the shot. I suggest that you are starting to look silly by doubling down on your point. Time to stop digging.

What's silly is throwing away two points which we seem to be doing on a regular basis this season.

 

[ancoats]

Great point. Now do you think that most of our squad are monetarily satisfied? Also completely satiated with respect to achievement. This combined with age for some leads to a kind of inertia and a sense that results don't really matter anymore?

it's a hard question to ask and only the players will know, They say to look at yourself in the mirror and if you are happy with what you see then it is time, Yes, We have a big percentage of the 30 and over in the squad and all of them have given everything in the past 6 to 7 seasons,

But I would also say we have a very good core of young attacking players in Haaland Foden Doku Savinho Bobb to build on, Then we have Rodri Dias Gvardiol Lewis so there is foundations to build and be champions again

The one thing that will come out of this is never to take players for granted and don't let a season like this happen again, Rodri has been a problem for 4 seasons and we don't have cover or somebody who can play that role if we don't have a plan B. Pep should have had somebody working with the youth and somebody like Nico O'Reilly who looks strong and powerful

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[KS55]

The thing that worries me is that even when 80% of the players have been rested with no game for over a week we still look absolutely knackered. It’s not as if it’s just the older players either.

We ran out of PEDS ….oops.

 

[KS55]

I think pep takes off players all the time when they have scored 2 goals, like keeping them hungry for the hatrick in the next match,totally backfired last night bringing on gundo was a big mistake to the balance of the team, weren't we like 2 nil up with like 10 minutes to go? Surly defence should be priority we were all over the place, and completely outplayed us in the last 15 minutes. This keep close for 70 and attacking us later on in the game seems to be the new plan,and it's working perfectly.

Surly defence is always preferable to smiley faces.

 

[KS55]

Philosophy seems to get in the way again. I think Pep cannot contemplate completing a game the way most teams at the Etihad begin a game - eleven defending the goal. There's summat up when philosophy gets in the way of points. I'm a great believer in 'the curse of the two goal lead', but why not deploy yer troops to negate it. Seventh when we could be fourth.

Philosophy in the way….yup, spot on. Pep is not known for his pragmatic flexibility. With Rodri injured and many too knackered to press, we should not employ the high line. Are Pep’s coaches talking to him?

 

[PitchInvader BHA away1983]

So…

I think we have a problem, 15 minutes only, possibly, 90 minutes highly probable!! :0(

1nil up - beat by Brighton and Utd
2nil up - draw at Brentford, beat Leicester, but still giving them too many chances
3nil up - draw at home to the Dutch
4nil up - beat WHU, but still giving them too many chances

Issues being??
No proper LB’s
No proper RB’s
Defenders that attack too much and don’t defend enough
We can’t stop the crosses
CB’s not tall enough or jumping high enough to clear the crosses
No Proper DM’s
No Legs in Midfield
Too old, not enough stamina
Too injury prone
Players playing out of position
Players playing who are not fully recovered from injuries or fully match fit
Not Clinical enough, in our finishing
Too many sideways or backwards passes
Too slow in the build up
Not enough crosses for the big Man
Need to involve the big Man more and more directly
Substitutes not solving problems either
Not enough substitutes used
Wrong substitutions
Substitutions too early or too late in the game
Too many young and inexperienced players on the bench
Need to play the youngsters more
Players have lost their desire for winning,Questionable??

So I think when you look at all the problems/issues, which cause the biggest problems in the last 15 minutes of the game!!

IMO, it’s bigger than that??

But we have got Pep, and I feel fine!! :0)

 

[youngbob]

Happened against Arsenal as well. This team has no legs left.

 

[KS55]

So…

I think we have a problem, 15 minutes only, possibly, 90 minutes highly probable!! :0(

1nil up - beat by Brighton and Utd
2nil up - draw at Brentford, beat Leicester, but still giving them too many chances
3nil up - draw at home to the Dutch
4nil up - beat WHU, but still giving them too many chances

Issues being??
No proper LB’s
No proper RB’s
Defenders that attack too much and don’t defend enough
We can’t stop the crosses
CB’s not tall enough or jumping high enough to clear the crosses
No Proper DM’s
No Legs in Midfield
Too old, not enough stamina
Too injury prone
Players playing out of position
Players playing who are not fully recovered from injuries or fully match fit
Not Clinical enough, in our finishing
Too many sideways or backwards passes
Too slow in the build up
Not enough crosses for the big Man
Need to involve the big Man more and more directly
Substitutes not solving problems either
Not enough substitutes used
Wrong substitutions
Substitutions too early or too late in the game
Too many young and inexperienced players on the bench
Need to play the youngsters more
Players have lost their desire for winning,Questionable??

So I think when you look at all the problems/issues, which cause the biggest problems in the last 15 minutes of the game!!

IMO, it’s bigger than that??

But we have got Pep, and I feel fine!! :0)

No wonder we are bottom of the league.

 

[Mifred]

So…

I think we have a problem, 15 minutes only, possibly, 90 minutes highly probable!! :0(

1nil up - beat by Brighton and Utd
2nil up - draw at Brentford, beat Leicester, but still giving them too many chances
3nil up - draw at home to the Dutch
4nil up - beat WHU, but still giving them too many chances

Issues being??
No proper LB’s
No proper RB’s
Defenders that attack too much and don’t defend enough
We can’t stop the crosses
CB’s not tall enough or jumping high enough to clear the crosses
No Proper DM’s
No Legs in Midfield
Too old, not enough stamina
Too injury prone
Players playing out of position
Players playing who are not fully recovered from injuries or fully match fit
Not Clinical enough, in our finishing
Too many sideways or backwards passes
Too slow in the build up
Not enough crosses for the big Man
Need to involve the big Man more and more directly
Substitutes not solving problems either
Not enough substitutes used
Wrong substitutions
Substitutions too early or too late in the game
Too many young and inexperienced players on the bench
Need to play the youngsters more
Players have lost their desire for winning,Questionable??

So I think when you look at all the problems/issues, which cause the biggest problems in the last 15 minutes of the game!!

IMO, it’s bigger than that??

But we have got Pep, and I feel fine!! :0)

Jeez
Bring back Frank Clark

 

[PitchInvader BHA away1983]

Jeez
Bring back Frank Clark

I think Frank Clark,tactics would be a bit more direct, and our Number 9, would be even more happy :0)

And so would I !!!! :0)

In light of the current lack of form in the rest of our team, I would not have a problem with that, until the end of the season???

Or the confidence and form throughout the team returns!!?? :0)