andyhinch
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
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TGR
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
I wonder how long it will be before Dismal Dave is on here also giving the book the thumbs up?
They both comprehensively dismissed it on its launch simply due to its title and nothing else.
Now all of a sudden Billy says its 'fucking fantastic'.
YCMIU
I wonder how long it will be before Dismal Dave is on here also giving the book the thumbs up?
They both comprehensively dismissed it on its launch simply due to its title and nothing else.
Now all of a sudden Billy says its 'fucking fantastic'.
YCMIU
Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
Let it go mate. We don't want yet another thread derailed by the same tedious arguments between the same posters.
TGR said:I wonder how long it will be before Dismal Dave is on here also giving the book the thumbs up?
They both comprehensively dismissed it on its launch simply due to its title and nothing else.
Now all of a sudden Billy says its 'fucking fantastic'.
YCMIU
Let it go mate. We don't want yet another thread derailed by the same tedious arguments between the same posters.
TGR
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
Ric, I let it go a long time ago. But to intially trash the book based soley on the title then now come on say its 'fucking fantastic'
is mind numbing.
Ric said:TGR said:I wonder how long it will be before Dismal Dave is on here also giving the book the thumbs up?
They both comprehensively dismissed it on its launch simply due to its title and nothing else.
Now all of a sudden Billy says its 'fucking fantastic'.
YCMIU
Let it go mate. We don't want yet another thread derailed by the same tedious arguments between the same posters.
Ric, I let it go a long time ago. But to intially trash the book based soley on the title then now come on say its 'fucking fantastic'
is mind numbing.
Didsbury Dave
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
You're like a little wasp buzzing round a picnic.TGR said:I wonder how long it will be before Dismal Dave is on here also giving the book the thumbs up?
They both comprehensively dismissed it on its launch simply due to its title and nothing else.
Now all of a sudden Billy says its 'fucking fantastic'.
YCMIU
Gary James
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
The key thing about any book is that people should read it (or at least flick through it) to get a true feeling of what it's about. David's done an excellent job with this book and it deserves to sell.
Titles and covers are, unfortunately, what people always focus on. Remember the old saying "You can't judge a book by its cover" ? - sadly too many people do. There have been a few of my books where the title or cover have, ultimately, been something I've not been happy with and I know that these occasionally put people off those books, but I can't stress enough how important it is to read at least a sample, or to flick through before buying. There are some football books, including City, that have great titles or covers but the content is awful. David's writing is not like that and I would urge people to sample what he writes if you've any doubts.
When I started out writing about City there were too few people writing about the club (mostly old jaded journalists who 'had to') and I got little support from those guys (I did get support from fanzines and from City historians but not by the 'City' writers) and I got some flack for some of my writing. I remember hearing someone at a friendly at BWFC in 1989 say to his mate about my first book "have you seen that new book on City? Don't bother buying it, it's shite!" - he obviously didn't know I was stood in front of him. Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that at City we are now blessed with some great writers, of which David is definitely one (there are others such as Hockin, Worthington et al), but we have some absolutely awful stuff being churned out on our club as well. Some of the churned out books will have better titles (in some people's eyes) than some of David's books (or mine for that matter!), but it's more likely to be David's book that has the better content.
I would urge every City fan to spend a bit of time looking at any book before buying and then feeling that you've wasted your money, but I'm pretty certain you will enjoy reading David's writing. I respect authors who have the same commitment and drive to tell the right story as me, and David certainly fits that category.
The key thing about any book is that people should read it (or at least flick through it) to get a true feeling of what it's about. David's done an excellent job with this book and it deserves to sell.
Titles and covers are, unfortunately, what people always focus on. Remember the old saying "You can't judge a book by its cover" ? - sadly too many people do. There have been a few of my books where the title or cover have, ultimately, been something I've not been happy with and I know that these occasionally put people off those books, but I can't stress enough how important it is to read at least a sample, or to flick through before buying. There are some football books, including City, that have great titles or covers but the content is awful. David's writing is not like that and I would urge people to sample what he writes if you've any doubts.
When I started out writing about City there were too few people writing about the club (mostly old jaded journalists who 'had to') and I got little support from those guys (I did get support from fanzines and from City historians but not by the 'City' writers) and I got some flack for some of my writing. I remember hearing someone at a friendly at BWFC in 1989 say to his mate about my first book "have you seen that new book on City? Don't bother buying it, it's shite!" - he obviously didn't know I was stood in front of him. Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that at City we are now blessed with some great writers, of which David is definitely one (there are others such as Hockin, Worthington et al), but we have some absolutely awful stuff being churned out on our club as well. Some of the churned out books will have better titles (in some people's eyes) than some of David's books (or mine for that matter!), but it's more likely to be David's book that has the better content.
I would urge every City fan to spend a bit of time looking at any book before buying and then feeling that you've wasted your money, but I'm pretty certain you will enjoy reading David's writing. I respect authors who have the same commitment and drive to tell the right story as me, and David certainly fits that category.
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I can't imagine there were more than a handful of Blues who were put off by the title to Dave's book ... I was definitely in that handful but still I can't imagine it effected his sales. I just wanted to post something to say that for those handful of Blues who don't hold Mancini in the highest regard, it's still an excellent read which isn't as I said, just a love letter to him.
Gary James said:The key thing about any book is that people should read it (or at least flick through it) to get a true feeling of what it's about. David's done an excellent job with this book and it deserves to sell.
Titles and covers are, unfortunately, what people always focus on. Remember the old saying "You can't judge a book by its cover" ? - sadly too many people do. There have been a few of my books where the title or cover have, ultimately, been something I've not been happy with and I know that these occasionally put people off those books, but I can't stress enough how important it is to read at least a sample, or to flick through before buying. There are some football books, including City, that have great titles or covers but the content is awful. David's writing is not like that and I would urge people to sample what he writes if you've any doubts.
When I started out writing about City there were too few people writing about the club (mostly old jaded journalists who 'had to') and I got little support from those guys (I did get support from fanzines and from City historians but not by the 'City' writers) and I got some flack for some of my writing. I remember hearing someone at a friendly at BWFC in 1989 say to his mate about my first book "have you seen that new book on City? Don't bother buying it, it's shite!" - he obviously didn't know I was stood in front of him. Anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is that at City we are now blessed with some great writers, of which David is definitely one (there are others such as Hockin, Worthington et al), but we have some absolutely awful stuff being churned out on our club as well. Some of the churned out books will have better titles (in some people's eyes) than some of David's books (or mine for that matter!), but it's more likely to be David's book that has the better content.
I would urge every City fan to spend a bit of time looking at any book before buying and then feeling that you've wasted your money, but I'm pretty certain you will enjoy reading David's writing. I respect authors who have the same commitment and drive to tell the right story as me, and David certainly fits that category.
I can't imagine there were more than a handful of Blues who were put off by the title to Dave's book ... I was definitely in that handful but still I can't imagine it effected his sales. I just wanted to post something to say that for those handful of Blues who don't hold Mancini in the highest regard, it's still an excellent read which isn't as I said, just a love letter to him.
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
You're like a fucking stray dog following them around,the only thing your achieving is making yourself look a bigger plank.
Billy has fully explained himself regarding this book and shouldn't be mocked but applauded for his honesty.
Your attempts at provocation each time he posts are sad,tiresome and very unhealthy for the forum.
Take the advice given.
TGR said:I wonder how long it will be before Dismal Dave is on here also giving the book the thumbs up?
They both comprehensively dismissed it on its launch simply due to its title and nothing else.
Now all of a sudden Billy says its 'fucking fantastic'.
YCMIU
You're like a fucking stray dog following them around,the only thing your achieving is making yourself look a bigger plank.
Billy has fully explained himself regarding this book and shouldn't be mocked but applauded for his honesty.
Your attempts at provocation each time he posts are sad,tiresome and very unhealthy for the forum.
Take the advice given.
BlueMooney
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
Thanks mate, much appreciated. :)
And work has begun on the next one, but there'll be a thread on that in good time! Haha.
BillyShears said:First of all .... big thanks to Dave Mooney for sending me his book. Was only fair that I actually read the book since I'd been so critical of the title in this thread and on Twitter.
I'd originally written a relatively long piece to stick in here about the book and about Mancini now that some time has passed, but I don't think it's appropriate to post it simply because I don't think enough time has passed and it'll open the same arguments up again.
As City books go I can say only that I can't recommend 'The Man Who Restored Pride' enough. It's a pretty comprehensive, at times funny, at times sad, at times thought provoking account of Mancini's time as City manager. You can feel the highs and lows that Dave, and actually, we all went through in those years.
I must admit it's quite dense and wasn't as easy a read as I thought it would be, but it doesn't make it any less satisfying. There's something typically City about Dave's prose and his inherent fear of the worst when it comes to anything related to our beautiful and at times crazy football club. Whether you're a lifelong City supporter or a newcomer to our beautiful club, the book is the essential first hand account of the most important years we've seen in decades.
Anyway thanks again Dave for sending it to me ... I promised I'd be honest and write something in this thread mate, there you have it. I really enjoyed it, and genuinely look forward to reading your next one!
Thanks mate, much appreciated. :)
And work has begun on the next one, but there'll be a thread on that in good time! Haha.
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Re: 'The Man Who Restored Pride' - out now!
Shamelessly self-promoting again, but in the run up to Christmas, if you buy directly from me and my website, I'm undercutting bookshops and Amazon quite significantly!
The Man Who Restored Pride is now £7.99 on its own (RRP £9.99).
Typical City is now £5.00 on its own (RRP £13.99)
Together they're £10.50 (where each individually would be £12.99 and the combined RRP would be £23.98.
All the info is on my website: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.davemooney.co.uk/books" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.davemooney.co.uk/books</a>
Shamelessly self-promoting again, but in the run up to Christmas, if you buy directly from me and my website, I'm undercutting bookshops and Amazon quite significantly!
The Man Who Restored Pride is now £7.99 on its own (RRP £9.99).
Typical City is now £5.00 on its own (RRP £13.99)
Together they're £10.50 (where each individually would be £12.99 and the combined RRP would be £23.98.
All the info is on my website: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.davemooney.co.uk/books" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.davemooney.co.uk/books</a>