The Mandela Effect

pudge said:
Do you mean that the Forrest Gump one isn't true in the sense that it was his mother who used the term?

Because the words definitely come out of his mouth.
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He says Moma always said "life was like a box of chocolates". Not is. It's a true Mandela affect.

Edit, I seeits been said.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
I'd think there's a difference between mistaken quotes from films which are used and mutated by speech, and actual events such as when Mandela died.
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Not the Mandela effect per se, but never the less odd.

Earlier in the year, the ex-Palace chairman Simon Jordan was reported to have been robbed at gunpoint in his car whilst stationary at traffic lights and his watch stolen.

The story is here https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-london-43494028

The only issue with this is that I heard this story years ago. Had you asked me to tell you a story about Simon Jordan before 21st March 2018 I’d have told you all about him getting his watch nicked off his wrist whilst he was in his car. So when I heard this story on the radio on the way to work I thought it odd. I’ve done a bit of googling and can find no report of this being the second time it’s happening to him.

In my head I thought it had happened around the time he was dating Kate Lawler which was round 2005.
 
Damocles said:
The Mandela Effect is a hypothesized effect whereby numerous people share a memory, usually something they can provide a fair amount of detail about or are almost religiously certain about, but never actually happened. Why this happens is disputed and ranges from weird pseudo science about timelines and multiple dimensions to shared delusions.

The name comes from the idea that a ton of people clearly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the mid to late 1980s. They remember the funerals, the banners there, the general cause of death and even remember a court case about his wife and her book rights afterwards. Hundreds of people seem to all have very similar recollections of this event. Some even recall being shocked when he was released from prison.

Of course Mandela died in 2013.

There are numerous examples in film and TV.

Two that have affected me have been the films Shazaam and Interview With The Vampire. Neither these films exist. The Vampire movie is inexplicably called Interview With A Vampire which is an odd mistake for me as I used to sleep with the VHS spine on a shelf facing me. The Shazaam film was about the black comedian Sinbad, who becomes a genie. It's a kids movie.

Well it's not, the film never existed. Sinbad was never in a genie film although I swear I can remember the cover crystal clear including the costume, the font, everything.

Other ones are somewhat famous. Neither "Luke I am your father", the Oscar acceptance speech declaring "you love me, you really really love me" or Forrest Gump saying "Life is like a box of chocolates" ever happened. Oh and what lay down with the lamb in the Book of Isiah in the Bible? It wasn't the lion. The lion never lay with the lamb. The wolf lay with the lamb.

Anyway, thoughts on this or examples of others you may have come across?

I find it really interesting how hundreds of people can all misremember or confuse things in the exact same way. It's fascinating how our brains work and how similarly people from the same culture can merge various different parts of separate objects to create the exact same misinformation.
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http://www.collegehumor.com/post/7044137/shazaam-is-real#
 
A famous City related one. Last time we were top of the league over Christmas we ended up getting relegated. This is in relation to the 1982-83 season.

The reality is that we were never top of the league over the Christmas holiday period in 1982 but we were 12 months earlier, due in no small part to many clubs having fixtures postponed as a result of a cold spell throughout most of December 1981 and City having played more games than most teams in the division thanks to our undersoil heating.

While it's a total myth, we did subside badly in the 1982-83 season though. Top after 3 games with a 100% record, and IIRC we were as high as second in early November.
 
Damocles said:
The Mandela Effect is a hypothesized effect whereby numerous people share a memory, usually something they can provide a fair amount of detail about or are almost religiously certain about, but never actually happened. Why this happens is disputed and ranges from weird pseudo science about timelines and multiple dimensions to shared delusions.

The name comes from the idea that a ton of people clearly remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison in the mid to late 1980s. They remember the funerals, the banners there, the general cause of death and even remember a court case about his wife and her book rights afterwards. Hundreds of people seem to all have very similar recollections of this event. Some even recall being shocked when he was released from prison.

Of course Mandela died in 2013.

There are numerous examples in film and TV.

Two that have affected me have been the films Shazaam and Interview With The Vampire. Neither these films exist. The Vampire movie is inexplicably called Interview With A Vampire which is an odd mistake for me as I used to sleep with the VHS spine on a shelf facing me. The Shazaam film was about the black comedian Sinbad, who becomes a genie. It's a kids movie.

Well it's not, the film never existed. Sinbad was never in a genie film although I swear I can remember the cover crystal clear including the costume, the font, everything.

Other ones are somewhat famous. Neither "Luke I am your father", the Oscar acceptance speech declaring "you love me, you really really love me" or Forrest Gump saying "Life is like a box of chocolates" ever happened. Oh and what lay down with the lamb in the Book of Isiah in the Bible? It wasn't the lion. The lion never lay with the lamb. The wolf lay with the lamb.

Anyway, thoughts on this or examples of others you may have come across?

I find it really interesting how hundreds of people can all misremember or confuse things in the exact same way. It's fascinating how our brains work and how similarly people from the same culture can merge various different parts of separate objects to create the exact same misinformation.
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This is a particular concern in my specialist area of law enforcement. Witnesses are notoriously unreliable and become more so with the passage of time. I'm very uneasy with some of the historical enquiries such as Bloody Sunday or Hillsborough taking place many years after the event when the effect you are talking about has had plenty of time to take hold.
 
I'm a big believer in the Berenstein/Berenstain bear one. I clearly remember growing up that it was the Berenstein Bears because I would always remember it was spelled the same way as Frankenstein.
 
M18CTID said:
A famous City related one. Last time we were top of the league over Christmas we ended up getting relegated. This is in relation to the 1982-83 season.

The reality is that we were never top of the league over the Christmas holiday period in 1982 but we were 12 months earlier, due in no small part to many clubs having fixtures postponed as a result of a cold spell throughout most of December 1981 and City having played more games than most teams in the division thanks to our undersoil heating.

While it's a total myth, we did subside badly in the 1982-83 season though. Top after 3 games with a 100% record, and IIRC we were as high as second in early November.
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There have been a few more recent ones linked with City fans collectively believing in a myth that never happened
- most city fans still believe we won the league in 2014 ahead of the actual champions
- That our coach was "attacked" last year when it was just a couple of styro cups
- that the club existed before 2008, and some fans even have shared "memories" of winning titles before that year!
 
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