the myth of celtic and their incredible support?

[kaz7]

The flouncer wasn't gone long lol

 

[blue b4 the moon]

You need to get out of the pub when you are away

Haha your probably right but I always seem to run into a rag/Celt/dipper in that order.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

As to the shirt sales, Celtic had a contract with Nike not to divulge the figures, no idea why but doing a quick Google suggests sales are in the several hundreds of thousands and enough for a top 10 spot. A lot of shirt sales are in the U.S where there is a big Celtic/Irish following.

My boy has Barcelona and Real Madrid strips, he's never been to Spain. I wouldn't look too much into Shirt sales anyway, do fans over the age of 25 even buy shirts these days?

Can't believe this thread has turned to 25 pages, sorry guys

Remove your posts and blues getting pissed off with you and it'd be on page 2 by now.

The games over, your full of it, time to go back to fried haggis.com...........

 

[Ban-jani]

Sad jock twat?

Dear oh dear, really?

The thread has been pretty well mannered up to now, a little bit of heckling here and there but you've lowered the tone completely with that comment. I won't retaliate and lower it further, not really into the keyboard warrior stuff personally.

But yeah, I'm cringing for you mate.

This is taken from our Wiki page and is an unbiased and reasonable description of City fans:

Since their inception in 1880 by Rev. Arthur Connell and William Beastow as St. Mark's (West Gorton), Manchester City F.C. have developed a loyal, passionate and dedicated following.[1][2][3] Evolving from a cricket team which aimed to unite the community in industrial east Manchester, St. Mark's changed to Ardwick F.C. before settling on Manchester City F.C. on 16 April 1894.

Despite finishing fifth in English football's top division, the club were the third best supported team in English football by average league attendance in the 2009–10 season[4] and have the longest-supporting fans in the Premier League.[5] In the 2010–11 season, they were one of only five Premier League clubs to sell out their 36,000 season ticket allocation, the maximum allocation permitted in proportion to Eastlands' capacity.[6]


The club have been previously branded as "everyone's second favourite club"[2][9] due to their reputation as being one of the most tumultuous and unpredictable teams in English football with an innate ability 'to do things the hard way'.[2][10][11] Supporters refer to inconsistent results and unexpected events as "Typical City", or "City-itis" and media often refer to City as a "soap opera" club.[12][13][14] Historical events and results labelled as "Typical City" include being the only team to score and concede 100 league goals in one season (1957-58) and the only reigning champions in English football to be relegated. However, despite anguish, many City fans regard success and failure as part of being a loyal and real football supporter and specifically what it means to be a Manchester City supporter.[15][16]


Manchester City has a large fanbase in relation to its comparative lack of success in recent years on the pitch. Since moving to the City of Manchester Stadium, Manchester City's average attendances have been in the top six in England,[24] usually in excess of 40,000. Even in the late 1990s, when the club were relegated twice in three seasons and playing in the third tier of English football (then Division Two, now Football League One), home attendances were in the region of 30,000, compared to an average for the division of fewer than 8,000.[25]Research carried out by Manchester City in 2005 estimates a fanbase of 886,000 in the United Kingdom and a total in excess of 4 million worldwide.[26]

So stick that up your arse.

 

[CBhoy67]

look back through the entire history of both clubs you moron. You're nowhere near the majority of our attendances.

Talk about identity when half your support want to be from a different nation.

You're blaming City for your fans celebrating in our end and goading our fans!? You're a complete fucking moron. City fans can blame City for letting your scumbags in but you should look at the twats that support old firm clubs for trouble.

You and your awful brand of sectarian ****s will never be allowed into English football so get that delusion out of your head and go eat a battered chocolate bar.

Is that the best insult you have? Go eat a battered chocolate bar? Scraping the barrel with that, how original.

If you look back at the history of attendances, a lot of years they were close but they do not take into account European figures when Celtic were attracting 100k+ so your point is mute. Look at the figures over the last 20yrs, Celtic have a far higher average. I can't really be arsed adding all the figures up and doing the maths but you're more than welcome too if it's really that important.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Sad jock twat?

I'm more of a 'Big Jock knew' kind of guy, myself.

 

[CBhoy67]

Ban Jami, stick what up my arse? 4m worldwide fans? I'm pretty sure the figures for Celtic at the same time were 9m

Each to their own though if it really bothers you that much.

Tell me though, why are there hundreds of threads on this forum about poor atmospheres at the Etihad? What are your fans doing wrong to generate virtually no noise at your games?

Do you need safe standing? Do you need a green brigade type section? Do you need a new songbook? Do you just need normal working class fans back in the ground?

 

[Vienna_70]

Sorry, I don't believe for a minute Burnley or Bournemouth would have ripped City apart the other night. Regardless, Celtic should have won the game if you go by the on target stats and I would argue that they should have won in the first game too. City were all over the place that night, where's the credit for stopping an invincible in form City team back at Parkhead? So if the best in form team in England at that time struggled to beat Celtic at Celtic Park, what makes you think teams like Bournemouth, Burnley, Watford etc would?

Just look at the 20 teams in the Premiership, there are genuinely just 10 good clubs there and about 7-8 big clubs. Celtic and equally Rangers are bigger than a lot of clubs in the Premiership. English fans always bang on about how good the Premiership is, granted, true for the 7-8 big clubs but who on earth wants to switch on Sky Sports to watch Burnley vs West Brom? 2 mediocre clubs.

Brings me back to the Ajax / PSV thing again, looking at the figures, Celtic are generating more money than their Dutch counterparts do. Ajax and PSV are getting left behind too and will never likely compete competitively in the CL again either. The same logic applies there, are Ajax no longer a big club because they can't better the wages of Stoke City? Come on, there's far more to being a big club than the transfer fees and wages on offer. Wealth is only 1 ingredient of a big club, fans and history make up the other ingredients. Some would say City lost their identity in 2008, let's admit, they were never really a top team, today though, they are.

Dario, no, there isn't a doubt. Let me know when City or any other English club takes 100k+ to a Euro final like Celtic and Rangers did. As to your 45k jibe, already explained quite a few times, 2012-2016 attendances plummeted due to Rangers being demoted. Look at this seasons. When the competition goes and the league is won by Christmas, you're not going to get 60k there on a Wednesday night against Patrick Thistle. Look at the figures up to 2008/9 though, 57-58k averages when City were nowhere near that.

Mad4city, money talks, the 'champions league' is a farce these days, 16 teams directly from the 4 top divisions is going to get tiresome every year. The term Champions League should certainly be scrapped.

You're right, with the financials, teams like Celtic, Ajax, PSV etc will never win the European cup again. However, I do think they all have the potential to compete in the Europa for that trophy. 2nd best I know but it's realistically all they can hope for. Celtic were in the final in 03 and Rangers in 08 so not a million years away.

The only way Celtic and Rangers will ever compete again is with an invitation into England to reap the financial rewards. The only way that would happen would be through Sky TV wanting change. It certainly won't happen in the short term but I'd like to think in my lifetime that will happen. Look at both Swansea and Cardiff for example. Both small clubs in the grand scheme of things and both have played Premiership football, Swansea now for a good few seasons (although looking at the table, this might be their last)

Jimharri, not sure what that article is getting at? There are idiots in every club, I seem to recall a few City idiots waving Union Jacks and Rangers tops at Parkhead. Any crowd trouble was the fault of your club im afraid. Instead of giving a paltry allocation, they should have given a bigger away allocation and then all Celtic fans would have been contained in one area rather than spread throughout the home sections. They must have known 5-6k or so would make the trip so why give them only 3000 tickets? Bad management by your club there.

When the draw was made, Celtic were always aiming for that 3rd spot to be fair. 3 draws and 3 losses in a very tough group wasn't too bad but I'm pretty gutted the Germans popped us to the Europa spot, it was a bad home performance against them that lost us that place. No European football now for Celti****il next July when it all starts again.

Good luck going forward in the last 16.

Celtic should have won in the home game against us? Do us a favour.

From the time we scored our third, we saw hardly any attacking play from the Irish team; we were all over you. Don't you remember Fernandinho hitting a screamer just wide?

As for the game at Etihad on Tuesday, your main threat came from an on-loan City player.

 

[Ban-jani]

Is that the best insult you have? Go eat a battered chocolate bar? Scraping the barrel with that, how original.

If you look back at the history of attendances, a lot of years they were close but they do not take into account European figures when Celtic were attracting 100k+ so your point is mute. Look at the figures over the last 20yrs, Celtic have a far higher average. I can't really be arsed adding all the figures up and doing the maths but you're more than welcome too if it's really that important.

Could have been worse I didn't want to be too insulting.

We've had more fans through our gates historically than you, despite yo-yo'ing up and down our leagues, not winning anything for 35 years and sharing a city (well metropolitan area) with one of the top 3 biggest clubs in the world.

Every town in Scotland has Celtic fans and yet you're attendance record for decades as been well below the average in England's top division.

Supporting City has always been about loyalty, Celtic is about jumping on the bandwagon whenever you're in the champions league.

 

[jimharri]

Ban Jami, stick what up my arse? 4m worldwide fans? I'm pretty sure the figures for Celtic at the same time were 9m

Each to their own though if it really bothers you that much.

Tell me though, why are there hundreds of threads about poor atmosphere at the Etihad? What are your fans doing wrong and what are Celtic fans doing right? The difference is Day and Night to be fair.

And still you haven't kept your promise to fuck off.





And I'm still waiting......