mexico1970
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Even in this instance sides will be taken, sides will always be taken and we must never forget that mate.
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The New House of Commons Speaker
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Even in this instance sides will be taken, sides will always be taken and we must never forget that mate.
meltonblue
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That’s some pretty magical thinking given that the Labour amendment only existed due to Labour forcing the Speaker to break Parliamentary convention.
You mean the only reason it was called.
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Even in this instance sides will be taken, sides will always be taken and we must never forget that mate.
Really? I don’t think there’s been a more obvious example of all sides utterly screwing up.
mexico1970
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Really? I don’t think there’s been a more obvious example of all sides utterly screwing up.
Yesterday showed us all that they are all villains really, career politicians looking after themselves.
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As in existed to be voted on.You mean the only reason it was called.
kaz7
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Put out by the tories , i saw one say something but in a more veiled wayIt was widely reported yesterday that Labour had threatened him with de-selection, and that was from the BBC which, contrary to perceived wisdom in here, is not an extension of the Conservative Party.
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Yer right it isn't. It's an extension of MUtvIt was widely reported yesterday that Labour had threatened him with de-selection, and that was from the BBC which, contrary to perceived wisdom in here, is not an extension of the Conservative Party.
The SNP have had an absolute disaster here.
They've shown everyone that what mattered to them was not calling for an immediate ceasefire in Palestine, because that has happened, what mattered is they got to hurt Labour via the ceasefire. They're predicted to lose over half their seats in the next GE, most of them to Labour, but to be quite so unashamed in playing games with a serious issue is very foolish.
The Tories are trying to blow this up to distract from Badendoch's political suicide. She's the favourite to replace Sunak but she's gone and lied to parliament a bunch of times and probably libelled someone so she's toast unless something major knocks it out of the poltical news for a week.
If anything, Labour come out of this well, they've shown a level of street smarts and ruthlessness people didn't think they had.
They've shown everyone that what mattered to them was not calling for an immediate ceasefire in Palestine, because that has happened, what mattered is they got to hurt Labour via the ceasefire. They're predicted to lose over half their seats in the next GE, most of them to Labour, but to be quite so unashamed in playing games with a serious issue is very foolish.
The Tories are trying to blow this up to distract from Badendoch's political suicide. She's the favourite to replace Sunak but she's gone and lied to parliament a bunch of times and probably libelled someone so she's toast unless something major knocks it out of the poltical news for a week.
If anything, Labour come out of this well, they've shown a level of street smarts and ruthlessness people didn't think they had.
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Do you think the BBC would have reported that, citing senior Labour sources, if they didn’t have strong evidence that the threat had been made? Take a minute to think about it, objectively, if you can.Evidence?
Let‘s face it, you had a bad day at the office, along with all those bad days while they’ve been in office, and you need somebody to blame. Just take it on the chin and get back to delivering absolutely fuck all for this country.
Lies, distraction and misinformation, that’s all that’s left.
Again, you seem to be exercising some pretty impressive mental gymnastics on this issue, even down to the point where you blame the SNP for creating a motion which put Labour in a difficult position.
That’s politics, I’m afraid, and Labour could simply have abstained on both the SNP’s motion and the government’s amendment yesterday. They could have used their own Opposition Days to table their own motion on the issue. They’ve had ample opportunity to do so. But Starmer hasn’t had a coherent position on the issue and he knew that couldn’t enforce party discipline yesterday if the SNP motion was one of just two options, hence the panic and the pressure applied on the Speaker.
It’s quite clear where the pressure to break Parliamentary convention came from and hence who to blame.
Do you think the BBC would have reported that, citing senior Labour sources, if they didn’t have strong evidence that the threat had been made? Take a minute to think about it, objectively, if you can.
Where is this reporting?
You're basing everything off a claim of reporting no one else has seen or heard. They certainly aren't reporting it now, it's nowhere to be seen on their politics homepage and the only Starmer story they have is him denying he did anything.
If you're going to keep telling us your accusations must be true because the BBC stood them up, can you at least provide a link to it?