Manc in London
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£8 Billion a year in management wages seems a tad over the top to me.
If £8BN is to much, how much is reasonable? I have no idea if it is too much, too little or about right.
£8 Billion a year in management wages seems a tad over the top to me.
Based on your in depth knowledge on how the NHS operates I assume?£8 Billion a year in management wages seems a tad over the top to me.
Better than making shit up don’t you think?Well done on the copy and paste job though
Based on your in depth knowledge on how the NHS operates I assume?
Better than making shit up don’t you think?
Doubt it.Id wager my in depth knowledge is about on a par with much of yours across the various subjects we argue the toss about.
Of course you're so far up your own arse to ever realise that.
A Tory majority tonight and brexit is reserved for posters like you it really is.
I'm prompted to ask this after my daring to question junior doctors in another thread, and the general outrage such comments cause. It wasn't particularly bad this time, but generally, if anyone makes any negative comments about the NHS, they are treated like they've fucked the pope.
What is it that causes such reaction? Is it because the NHS employs SO many people that nearly everyone has a family member or friend or neighbour who works for them?
Any suggestion that the NHS could be improved by some change or other, is pounced upon. And god help anyone who suggests - shock horror - maybe the private sector could do some of the work!?! You'd be rounded up and shot if some had their way.
If the service the NHS gave was amazing, it would be easier to understand. But the waiting times are terrible, the availability of leading edge treatments and facilities "patchy" to downright poor. And the clinical outcomes for things like cancer, woeful. In short, it's pretty poor to be honest.
People who work there are all "angels" or "heros" or whatever. Despite the fact they *chose* to go into the profession and they get paid for doing so. They weren't press-ganged into it. But dare to suggest that some nurses are lazy sods for whom picking up crap off the floor or doing some other actually important task, is beneath them.
You go up to the average nursing station on the average ward and 3 or 4 of them will blank you for 10 minutes. If any shop treated you like that, you'd walk out. But when the NHS does it, they are marvellous.
Why no such love-in for the chemical engineering industry? How about passionately sticking up for airport security staff who do such an amazing job preventing those nasty terrorists?
Nope, the NHS is rank average at best, and the sooner people can stop romanticising and face up to the fact, the sooner we can start thinking about how we can get a better health service for all of us.
Don't they just !some things age badly...............
Oooh, fucking beautiful. No coming back from that. Ever.some things age badly...............
Not Keith though. He is one cool mother. Please god I have his lust for life when I am his age.