The selfish 'I dont give a f--k' generation

[Machiavelli]

Much, much more tolerant of Paedos as well to be fair. Probably too tolerant in my opinion.

They seemed to be more tolerant of homosexuality those folk from the 70’s and 80’s. @Bert Trautmanns Helemet knows best.

 

[Bert Trautmanns Helemet]

What generation would that be ? The ones raised and fucked over by the older end ?
The generation where university means a life long debt, next to no pension and a working age into their 70s ?
A generation of brutal spending cuts and low employment opportunity, the zero hour, no sick pay generation. I feel its the older, go fuck yourself, I'm alright generation thats the problem. But those young kids these days eh !!!

It's always somebody else's fault - eh?
The opportunity to go university was very much unheard of for kids from 'Secondary Modern' schools in the 70's. Now literally anyone and everyone goes - academically suited or not. In the 70's you left school at 16 and had to earn a living. Not toss it off at 'Freshers Week' for 3 years.
Unemployment today is much lower than it was then. Opportunities to travel are far greater. now than they have ever been.
But hey - let's blame someone else shall we, because we are bunch of lazy, wastrels who want everything put on a plate and if that doesn't happen I'm going to post bad things on Facebook!

 

[inbetween]

It's always somebody else's fault - eh?

The opportunity to go university was very much unheard of for kids from 'Secondary Modern' schools in the 70's. Now literally anyone and everyone goes - academically suited or not. In the 70's you left school at 16 and had to earn a living. Not toss it off at 'Freshers Week' for 3 years.

Unemployment today is much lower than it was then. Opportunities to travel are far greater. now than they have ever been.

But hey - let's blame someone else shall we, because we are bunch of lazy, wastrels who want everything put on a plate and if that doesn't happen I'm going to post bad things on Facebook!

This for me is why students can't afford houses.

I did the whole uni thing 6-7 years ago but I now have a house, I only got it late near the age of 30 because I only started working in a proper well paying job into my early to mid 20's.

Contrast this to folk in the past who were working at perhaps 15-16 and that is nearly 10 years of earnings which students nowadays just don't have.

I know people who are still students or still 'travelling' into their late 20's and they are always the ones moaning about how bad things are in the world. If they got a job then maybe they would realize that it is perfectly doable and there is lots of help.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Shit drivers !!!!!

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

It's why I quite like the idea of the Russians trying to invade us. They wouldn't need any Nukes. We can go at it street by street and see how many of our selfish cnuts want to step up to the plate.

 

[cptaidan88]

This for me is why students can't afford houses.

I did the whole uni thing 6-7 years ago but I now have a house, I only got it late near the age of 30 because I only started working in a proper well paying job into my early to mid 20's.

Contrast this to folk in the past who were working at perhaps 15-16 and that is nearly 10 years of earnings which students nowadays just don't have.

I know people who are still students or still 'travelling' into their late 20's and they are always the ones moaning about how bad things are in the world. If they got a job then maybe they would realize that it is perfectly doable and there is lots of help.

What percentage of jobs are available that you can get at school leaving age with no qualifications, that mean you can afford to buy a house within a couple of years?

I agree some degrees are a complete waste of time and money, but guess which generation decided you need a degree for most jobs?

I have a good job and a house, but I wouldn't have got either without going to Uni.

 

[inbetween]

What percentage of jobs are available that you can get at school leaving age with no qualifications, that mean you can afford to buy a house within a couple of years?

I agree some degrees are a complete waste of time and money, but guess which generation decided you need a degree for most jobs?

I have a good job and a house, but I wouldn't have got either without going to Uni.

Oh I agree, I'm not saying people shouldn't go. I finished uni and was on the dole for a few months before I got an okay paying job and then a couple of years after that it led to a much better job.

I am just saying that people in their 20's cannot afford a house because they are at uni rather than earning whereas in the past people were earning from 15-16 which is why they had money to buy houses early that we didn't.

 

[FlemishDuck]

Things are heating up nicely between generations in Belgium due a controversial series of protests where students of elementary schools are allowed to skip school to protest the climate issue. Among the baby boom generation this creates some resentment on the line of "they should better start with themselves".
I hear it often, i heard it yesterday when i took a train where there were many of these youg protesters going to the capital and it spawned a somewhat heated discussion in the train. Because next to me sat a lady of about age 60, and she said the exact same "they should better start with themselves", trying to get symphaty with a man of my age. (late 30's)

I said that i fully supported the youth and that i thought the whole argument "to start with oneselve" on an individual basis to be rediculous. That the youth are consumers is not such a surprise given the example they have been given and the commrcialism that they are bombarded with. However it's their future on the line, and an ad-hominem lacks the recognition that should be given to the issue in the first place and the imperative for action.

Besides, it really doesn't do much difference if on an individual basis we do a lot of effort to spare the enviroment, it's really industry that always want to grow and will always take up the savings of others as "extra pollution allowed". In the end it makes no difference to the rise of Co2, decade's of recycling and other inittiatives doesn't make a dent on that growth curve.


Well i said to the baby boomers that they should count theirselves lucky if i remains with students skipping school to protest. If things still doesn't change then i guess the next step imho is wholesale economic sabotage. De-growth the economy whatever the painfull economic consequences may be and thereby force the economy under the Kyoto norm. And if it's about who should take the economic hit then iwould propose a serious reduction in pensions.

Granted, the baby boomers didn't like it at all. And true, it's not because Belgium would go under the Kyoto norm that all other country's would follow BUT perhaps the argument can be made that on a national basis "it starts with oneselve". Belgium should show the example, and if that leads to less prosperity for us then "tous ensemble!".

 

[dennishasdoneit]

Bad form that no one stood up for that poor girl who was struggling and arthritic.But as a general rule olden folk should not be respected just because of age alone.They are just like you and me but with a few more saggy bits and wrinkles.It's not something you have to work hard at it just comes of it's own volition..They had little choice at becoming old so 100 % give them that seat and help them across the road and pop in for a brew to say hello and offer comfort but respect is an hard earned commodity that has to work both ways.Maybe empathy is a better choice of word.We should care more for them as a society including our government whose treatment of the elderly beggars belief.A provernbial ticking time bomb of miserable state pension and social care compared to there partners in crime in europe.That is all:

Very well said.

 

[dennishasdoneit]

In Britain? Surely the youth of the 60's and 70's was rather rebellious with such youth culture's like "rude boy", skinheads and punks.
The baby boom generation rebelled against their elders in ways i don't even see the current youth doing.

Notable there is also a great cultural devide in this regard to Western (liberalised) culture's and for example Japanese patriarchal culture. There is far more emphasis culturaly in Japan for respect to elders which in part follows from Shinto religion which emphasises the worship of ancestors. Apparently you havn't seen enough of that culture shock. Basicly things we do in the west that would be considered quite polite might be downright rude in Japan. Who knows getting up earlier in the morning than youre dad might be enough to get expulsed from the family for the sheer disrespect of it. Ok thats exagurated but we would find the things they make a big deal about in terms of respect downright silly, and i presume if a Japanese boy that would be considered somewhat rude at home would come the the west he would be a model of good behaviour.



Japan is by no means nessecarily a better country for having a culture so much focussed on respect though.

The Whales of the world agree with this.