The Super League | FA + PL: New Charter & Fines | UEFA: Settlement

[BlueMoonz1977]

The best thing about CL is the fallout when a top club misses out on top 4. They want to take that away in 2024, Nearly as bad as ESL

Exactly, it is either choose one corrupt competition (UEFA) or another corrupt competition (ESL)

Both are protectionist to the established clubs - but the difference being the clubs want more revenue and understand that they can do that without UEFA

 

[CatMan]

Then I hope PSG win it.

I think that as UEFA nominate the officials you won't need to hope too much.

 

[OntarioBlue]

I read this morning that the ESL plans to invite 3 more clubs to join bringing the number of permanent member to 15. 5 more places will be awarded annually based on merit.

The interesting bit is that down the road other teams may be invited to join and will have to pay a joining fee. in North America new clubs can be added to the NFL, NBA, NHL etc by way of an expansion franchise. In the NFL, for example, one of these franchises would probably cost in excess of $1 billion.

In the ESL model, if based on the North American model (which it appears to be) the Club owners will own the league, they will negotiate TV deals and will control branded merchandising (if you think replica kits are expensive here look at the price of branded hockey jersey) etc.It is literally a licence to print money and when they feel like making a bit more they sell off a franchise or two and stick another couple of billion in their pockets.

If i were fortunate enough to be an owner I would think this is a brilliant deal. I‘m not sure it‘s so great for the teams outside the group of 20, the fans or even the players. In North America players are well rewarded for sure but they are chattels and for the most part can be traded on an owners whim. Imagine living and playing in Los Angeles, for example, and being told you have just been traded to Winnipeg and that you have to report there for training tomorrow morning. It happens all the time.

This is going to be an interesting ride.

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

Hahah, ok. You should have put 'so there' at the end of that. Pathetic.

go handy with the personal stuff. This is an emotive subject

 

[andyhinch]

Mortgage everyone else's future with somebody else's money to line your own pockets.


I'd be surprised if there's 4 billion people worldwide with the access to watch this. The peak viewership for the World Cup final of all time is 1.1bn. That's peak, arounnd half that watched the full 90 minutes.

That’s only because the rags weren’t in it ;-)

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Maybe I am struggling here mate but how is restructuring European competition football fucking off fans?
Provided the national leagues and other competitions remain the same this would not really alter the fan experience for the clubs involved.
Providing there is a fair system for promoting clubs in and out of the league I can’t see a problem. What I do disagree with is the concept of founder members automatically bein in the league but that is not much different to what UEFA have proposed with clubs automatically qualifying on historical grounds.
I suspect there will be an awful lot of negotiations ahead before a final format is established and maybe the super league current stance is simply the start of an extreme negotiating position.
Anyway it’s rattled UEFA’s corrupt establishment and I’m all for that!

It would alter the fan experience of every single club in Europe. The clubs who are striving to get better and compete with the "elite" (Arsenal, elite in midtable, lol!) like Leicester and West Ham, Sevilla, Atalanta etc. will not be able to compete in this competition. They won't be allowed in. The clubs who dream that their fortunes change and they get invested in, even if they’re as slim as owt, will die.

Also, who the hell do you think were behind all the UEFA moves and motives to try and stop City over the years? You guessed it... the people from the clubs we’re getting into bed with!

 

[hgblue]

Where are there refs coming from, who controls them ?

Whatever way i look at it we will be knifed

Liverpool and United will be training and controlling the refereeing teams ;). I’m seeing so many straw man arguments it’s hard to keep up.

 

[MCFC1993]

In bed with this prick, unbelievable.

 

[Burtonblue]

the current system may be elitist but it's open ended to a certain extent - you can break in with investment etc.

This is racketeering in it's purest form. The ladder has been pulled up. They've looked to seal the market for themselves. It's should actually be illegal.

At the end of the day I still think this will turn out to be an excercise in sabre rattling and unsettling UEFA.
I very much doubt it will ever see the light of day but it’s certainly pissed on UEFA’s chips and is telling them where the power lies....

 

[Cityzen_89]

I think that as UEFA nominate the officials you won't need to hope too much.