The Telegraph set to release evidence of corruption in the Premier League withing the coming days

[Neville Kneville]

makes you wonder how many of these "ambassadorial" second jobs the f.a. actually give the okay to that we don't get to hear about.
maybe, if this had been genuine and not a set-up, allardyce would've run it by the f.a. and they'd have said okay to it.
nudges and winks all round are par for the course whenever huge money is involved.

He was assisting in helping a company become owners of players. Something outlawed by FIFA & he knew exactly that:

“In principle it’s OK,” Allardyce added. “The fact that I’m going to be turning up on four occasions throughout the year, doing meet and greets and nothing else, so it’s not, nobody’s going to come back to me and say 'I met Sam and I invested in this, this portfolio, and he told me to go and buy these young players, and that young player’, and that’s, you know. So they can’t blame me, do you know what I mean?”

Allardyce did not appear to have considered the potential conflict of interest that would arise if players part-owned by the Far East firm were selected to play for England, raising their value and increasing profits for the firm’s investors.

And:

He did, however, express an apparent nervousness about being publicly linked to the firm. One of the undercover reporters asked if it could bill the England manager as its “strategic adviser”.


“Not on the football side, no,” Allardyce replied. “If you were buying players, that would be no. Because I couldn’t associate my name with any of that.”

And:

He added that Allardyce would “have to run it past the powers that be” before he could commit to anything, and said: “Now, there might be a different role down the line when he is no longer involved at the FA, whether it’s two years, four years or wherever, but it’s always good to have relationships, for sure.”

Allardyce said: “That loose basis that we talked about will be OK – it’ll be all right. I’m not putting myself in a position that the papers can investigate, cause me a problem, or the FA could.”

They couldn't ok it if they knew the full story.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Mr Murdoch may be a little confused because one of his papers seems to have written the expose about Sam A. who at the time was employed by the FA who are the recipients of a massive sponsorship deal from another of Mr Murdoch´s Companies.

Was he aware of the DT´s intentions I wonder ?

You seem to be unaware that Murdoch does not own the Daily Telegraph...

 

[Matty]

That the bloke who has just been appointed England manager, has already set up a deal to help an overseas consortium break FA rules, before he has even taken a fucking England training session ?

This is the man the FA, the governing body of football in this country, saw fit to appoint as England manager. He was already trying to use his position in order to make money, before he'd even picked a team.

And we shouldn't be concerned about this ?

My concern with an England manager is "Can he get that bunch of prima donnas to actually play like a team and, at the very least, match the expectations we have of them?".

I'm not sure why we seem to have this opinion that the England manager is supposed to be "whiter than white" as the term seems to go. We seem to think we're somehow superior to everyone else, I've even seen the term "...guardians of the rules and the body that judges others...." used as justification. Do we really think World Football gives a shit about England? We may have developed the game but we sure as shit don't own or run it anymore. By what measure are we guardians of the rules? What judgement power over others do we have? We really do hold ourselves in far too high an esteem. Antonio Conte was banned from football for match fixing, didn't seem to affect his ability to perform well as Italian manager, or to get himself a job in England (despite our position as a "body who judges others" apparently).

My issues with Allardyce were that I didn't think he was a particularly great manager, I don't really care whether he earns £3m a year or £3m + £400,000. Being England manager really isn't a full time role. You've got months between games at times, and only a week or so with the actually players then. The England manager will have a shit load of "free time" on their hands, if they chose to use that earning more money via other methods I really don't care.

The British media target the England manager and go after him in an attempt to try and destroy him, every single time. Then they woman and moan when we perform poorly at tournaments. Can they really not see how their actions are a contributory factor? You wouldn't get the national press from Italy, Spain, Germany or France going after their national manager with such vigour simply to sell more copies and bring in more ad revenue. The Telegraph will be jumping up and down claiming they've done us all a favour exposing Fat Sam like this, don't be fooled, they've done themselves a favour as their aim was to increase profits and nothing more. If it were more profitable to them to sweep this under the carpet and not tell anyone then that's what they'd have done.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

My concern with an England manager is "Can he get that bunch of prima donnas to actually play like a team and, at the very least, match the expectations we have of them?".

I'm not sure why we seem to have this opinion that the England manager is supposed to be "whiter than white" as the term seems to go. We seem to think we're somehow superior to everyone else, I've even seen the term "...guardians of the rules and the body that judges others...." used as justification. Do we really think World Football gives a shit about England? We may have developed the game but we sure as shit don't own or run it anymore. By what measure are we guardians of the rules? What judgement power over others do we have? We really do hold ourselves in far too high an esteem. Antonio Conte was banned from football for match fixing, didn't seem to affect his ability to perform well as Italian manager, or to get himself a job in England (despite our position as a "body who judges others" apparently).

My issues with Allardyce were that I didn't think he was a particularly great manager, I don't really care whether he earns £3m a year or £3m + £400,000. Being England manager really isn't a full time role. You've got months between games at times, and only a week or so with the actually players then. The England manager will have a shit load of "free time" on their hands, if they chose to use that earning more money via other methods I really don't care.

The British media target the England manager and go after him in an attempt to try and destroy him, every single time. Then they woman and moan when we perform poorly at tournaments. Can they really not see how their actions are a contributory factor? You wouldn't get the national press from Italy, Spain, Germany or France going after their national manager with such vigour simply to sell more copies and bring in more ad revenue. The Telegraph will be jumping up and down claiming they've done us all a favour exposing Fat Sam like this, don't be fooled, they've done themselves a favour as their aim was to increase profits and nothing more. If it were more profitable to them to sweep this under the carpet and not tell anyone then that's what they'd have done.

Well said, that Man.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

My concern with an England manager is "Can he get that bunch of prima donnas to actually play like a team and, at the very least, match the expectations we have of them?".

I'm not sure why we seem to have this opinion that the England manager is supposed to be "whiter than white" as the term seems to go. We seem to think we're somehow superior to everyone else, I've even seen the term "...guardians of the rules and the body that judges others...." used as justification. Do we really think World Football gives a shit about England? We may have developed the game but we sure as shit don't own or run it anymore. By what measure are we guardians of the rules? What judgement power over others do we have? We really do hold ourselves in far too high an esteem. Antonio Conte was banned from football for match fixing, didn't seem to affect his ability to perform well as Italian manager, or to get himself a job in England (despite our position as a "body who judges others" apparently).

My issues with Allardyce were that I didn't think he was a particularly great manager, I don't really care whether he earns £3m a year or £3m + £400,000. Being England manager really isn't a full time role. You've got months between games at times, and only a week or so with the actually players then. The England manager will have a shit load of "free time" on their hands, if they chose to use that earning more money via other methods I really don't care.

The British media target the England manager and go after him in an attempt to try and destroy him, every single time. Then they woman and moan when we perform poorly at tournaments. Can they really not see how their actions are a contributory factor? You wouldn't get the national press from Italy, Spain, Germany or France going after their national manager with such vigour simply to sell more copies and bring in more ad revenue. The Telegraph will be jumping up and down claiming they've done us all a favour exposing Fat Sam like this, don't be fooled, they've done themselves a favour as their aim was to increase profits and nothing more. If it were more profitable to them to sweep this under the carpet and not tell anyone then that's what they'd have done.

FFS the ownership of players rule that he was happy to advise about circumventing is a FIFA rule!
It isn't a little local distraction it is a blight that has affected world soccer for too long and is now outlawed by world soccer.
He deserved to go for just that.

 

[SilverFox2]

The Telegraph is owned by the Barclay Brothers not Murdoch

Apologies, thanks for correction.

 

[Ric]

I dont get this at all.

As long as people say "I think" it protects the forum as it's a personal opinion, which is something folk are legally entitled to have.

Saying "I think "Ric" took bungs and is on steroids" versus "Ric took bungs and is on steroids" are two entirely different things. One is speculation and personal interpretation of events, the other is slander as it is presented as fact.

Also, for the record, I'm sure Ric hasn't taken bungs and is not on steroids.

I wish it were that simple mate, but sadly it's not.

I know a couple of mods have already posted this, but it's worth reiterating. Please don't anything that could be construed as libellous on this thread (or indeed any other). We don't want to start handing out warnings or bans, but will do if necessary. Cheers.

 

[SilverFox2]

You seem to be unaware that Murdoch does not own the Daily Telegraph...

Correct. Thanks for pointing this out.

 

[bluevillain]

Why didn't the FA insist that an England manager is excluded from paid consultancy work in the contract.
Your England manager and we have been pants for decades. Your whole focus should be on football for me.
You have been given 3million a year for your time too.
Pure greed.

 

[Thaksinssoldier]

Here's what I will say. It's since come out that one manager met them and got up and walked out 30 seconds later as he wanted none of it.

I want to know who this was.

He is either a man of great integrity or smelt a sting a mile away. But they should release that manager's name.