The Tottenham Thread 12/13

[NipHolmes]

I think Bale will stay if Levy can convince him that they have plans to strengthen their squad

When you consider just how good Bale was this season, it's a poor outcome to finish 5th. And the striking problems were clear for all to see so Levy only has himself to blame

I'm not a fan of AVB either. He had some very strange defensive set-ups in European fixtures with slow defenders pushed high up the pitch leaving them as sitting ducks

Bale's basically kept them up there

But if they could keep Bale and buy a centre-forward, they'd be able to go from 5th to 3rd at least. And that would possibly be enough for Bale. He's 23 not 29. So there's no rush like there was for RVP

You've just taken that defensive stuff from Chelsea discussion haven't you?

You do realise he won a treble with this 'very strange defensive set up' don't you?

Barca brought it in, Porto copied and AVB was told by Roman to make Chelsea the new Barca. He copied the methods that won him a treble (common sense to use a winning formula) but he didn't have players to do it, he should've in hindsight said to Roman that the players weren't capable of it. He could have seen the season out and then got the players required then.

No. By defensive set-up I didn't mean he's a defensive coach. I was thinking back to the high line he played at the San Siro with Gallas stranded near the half-way line whilst Inter played little through balls in behind him. I wasn't charaterising him as a defensive coach but questioning his tactics with his defence in games I'd seen

Because that's the system.

The system works with ;

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It's basically a pressing game where a team has two rows of midfield. By hard work and clever pressing you basically win the ball and do so in the opponents half. You're close to their goal and can attack teams and win easier. In a more traditional system a pitch has to be travelled up and it's harder work, high highlines you not only have an attacking advantage but also you play an offside trap. For this system to work you have to have two rapid defenders normally who can track back and make a challenge but if the system works it means you dominate teams. Barca have dominated with it and Porto won a treble with it.

You just said Gallas, without googling that bloke has to be 32+ and pretty slow. Not the best candidate for this system. However the system is deployed because it works for the team as a whole.

I watch every Barca game. The reason why they concede is normally a typical play where Alves is too far up the pitch and leaving Pique high and dry on his own. However they score more than they concede. That's why it works. It's not a foolproof system but it's about percentages and over a campaign it works. Hardwork is involved and educated pressing, not running like a headless chicken. For opposition to score it involves breaching 3 lines, attacker, mid and defence. Now when all three are in your half it's a struggle. Couple that with offside traps and rapid wing backs like Rose will be next year and also Walker. It will help them, that's why AVB will use it.

Method in the madness Marvin.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I will never understand why the Spurs owner doesn't just invest £100m as a one off which will get them the 3 or 4 players who will ensure they'll be a top four team. That will increase their revenue by at least £35-40m a season so it would pay back in 3 years.

 

[Castiel]

I will never understand why the Spurs owner doesn't just invest £100m as a one off which will get them the 3 or 4 players who will ensure they'll be a top four team. That will increase their revenue by at least £35-40m a season so it would pay back in 3 years.

Because it's no guarantee is it? You're talking about £100m out of your own pocket. That's one hell of a gamble.

 

[Blue Hefner]

I will never understand why the Spurs owner doesn't just invest £100m as a one off which will get them the 3 or 4 players who will ensure they'll be a top four team. That will increase their revenue by at least £35-40m a season so it would pay back in 3 years.

Because it's no guarantee is it? You're talking about £100m out of your own pocket. That's one hell of a gamble.

Perhaps 100mil is a bit over the top but you'd have thought that they would have put their hands in their pocket and bought a good striker. Defoe and Adebayor are nowhere near good enough over a season

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

I will never understand why the Spurs owner doesn't just invest £100m as a one off which will get them the 3 or 4 players who will ensure they'll be a top four team. That will increase their revenue by at least £35-40m a season so it would pay back in 3 years.

Because it's no guarantee is it? You're talking about £100m out of your own pocket. That's one hell of a gamble.

Joe Lewis isn't that much poorer than Roman. And they finished just one point behind Arsenal. Two decent strikers and defenders would do it. AVB is a pretty reliable manager as well.

 

[pml79]

I will never understand why the Spurs owner doesn't just invest £100m as a one off which will get them the 3 or 4 players who will ensure they'll be a top four team. That will increase their revenue by at least £35-40m a season so it would pay back in 3 years.

Because it's no guarantee is it? You're talking about £100m out of your own pocket. That's one hell of a gamble.

Joe Lewis isn't that much poorer than Roman. And they finished just one point behind Arsenal. Two decent strikers and defenders would do it. AVB is a pretty reliable manager as well.

think it would be more the wage structure getting a top player like that n the rest would be bangin on the door askin for more money me thinks

 

[Castiel]

The irony is once these FFP regulations kick in they would prevent Spuds from ever doing that. A one off £100m investment.

Spurs owners are also in this for the money, and 100m (as an example) is a hell of a lot to risk on any investment. Roman isn't. Whatever he invests he pretty much writes off - or he's got a terrible business strategy for the club. Which is nice considering he's done a lot to get us towards self sufficiency over the last decade. They seem to be content playing it safe and slowly creeping towards their goals without taking many financial risks.

 

[GHoddle]

Joe Lewis isn't that much poorer than Roman. And they finished just one point behind Arsenal. Two decent strikers and defenders would do it. AVB is a pretty reliable manager as well.

I think we could see some investment from the owner this summer, although we have heard the same things before. It's hard to read their intentions, but I don't see how they can secure stadium funding without us finishing in the top 4. I think we can raise £40 million from player sales this summer, but we need to spend another 20 million on top of that to build a squad good enough to get at least 80 points, which I feel is what we will need with all the top sides strengthening this summer. 2 strikers, a wide forward, a midfielder, and a left back are what's needed.

I don't think Joe Lewis would even need to invest his own money, we have a lot more than 20 million in the bank. But that amount would be peanuts for him, he has a 1 billion dollar worth art collection FFS and I've heard he's worth over 5 billion dollars.

 

[VOOMER]

I will never understand why the Spurs owner doesn't just invest £100m as a one off which will get them the 3 or 4 players who will ensure they'll be a top four team. That will increase their revenue by at least £35-40m a season so it would pay back in 3 years.

Because it's no guarantee is it? You're talking about £100m out of your own pocket. That's one hell of a gamble.

Joe Lewis isn't that much poorer than Roman. And they finished just one point behind Arsenal. Two decent strikers and defenders would do it. AVB is a pretty reliable manager as well.

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This has money laundering written all over it, Roman would have greater liquid assets and reserves than Joe Lewis, much greater.

 

[Matty]

It seems Napoli president Aurelio De Laurentiis has confirmed that he has made an approach to Spurs to take AVB to Napoli as their new manager!

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/23/napol...spurs-over-manager-andre-villas-boas-3805763/