bizzbo said:Ducado said:mammutly said:1894 said:Gary Cook's business-speak now appearing as football-speak. We better get used to it ...
I think that's exactly what it is. Dressing things up as something that they are not.
The club is after a big name signing.
That's it.
The only other 'strategy' involves looking at who might be available and whether we want them or not. The only difference between us and other clubs, all of whom do the same thing, is that the money is less of a factor.
Well it's your opinion and who knows you could be right, or you could be wrong, does anyone actually care? I very much doubt it, it's such a pity that all the best people in the world of football management are far to busy posting on internet forums and flipping burgers
guess it's just another way to run down city, or build them up. however, regardless of the coherence or depth of any strategy that may or may not be in place, mammutly appears to have made a crap argument. The unknowns in the transfer market are pretty easy to identify. club X will or won't bid for X. Player X will or will not agree to sign. come up with reasonable probabilities for these things, and you can create a perfectly workable strategy. ask donald rumsfield, although he was talking about the unknowns that you don't even know exist. not many of them in a the transfer business.
almost forgot...do you want onions with that?
OB1 said:I actually think there is a fairly clear transfer strategy that City have. One part of the strategy is to sign one or two big name players for both commercial reasons and footballing reasons, and in order to help City encourage other players to join the club. However a core part of the strategy is to buy proven players with Premier League experience with a clear goal of getting City into the top four pdq. As opposed, for example, to a strategy of buying young players who have great potential and taking time to develop a successful team. That's my take on the strategy.
I'd hope and expect that the transfer strategy will change once City have established themselves as a force.
mammutly said:My 'crap argument' is just that calling going after players a 'transfer strategy' is bollox garry cooke speak.
mammutly said:Logically, you've listed 16 possible contingencies there, just in your simple example of one club/other club/player.
mammutly said:A strategy is an overall plan, so the idea of a 'transfer strategy' has to be rubbish. There are just too many unknowns.
It cannot be a plan to go after players, not get them, so then go after other players and get them instead, if we can.
The club might have a list of targets but that's all it is. Bigging it up as a 'strategy' is stupid.
OB1 said:I actually think there is a fairly clear transfer strategy that City have. One part of the strategy is to sign one or two big name players for both commercial reasons and footballing reasons, and in order to help City encourage other players to join the club. However a core part of the strategy is to buy proven players with Premier League experience with a clear goal of getting City into the top four pdq. As opposed, for example, to a strategy of buying young players who have great potential and taking time to develop a successful team. That's my take on the strategy.
I'd hope and expect that the transfer strategy will change once City have established themselves as a force.
5knuckleshuffle said:mammutly said:A strategy is an overall plan, so the idea of a 'transfer strategy' has to be rubbish. There are just too many unknowns.
It cannot be a plan to go after players, not get them, so then go after other players and get them instead, if we can.
The club might have a list of targets but that's all it is. Bigging it up as a 'strategy' is stupid.
Sorry pal but your wrong!
City are using a strategy and its this one.
There is a book called "The Art Of War" By SunTzu. Its a military tactic book over a 1000 years old.
It is used in buisness studies in many universities.
One of the chapters reads that to make yourself stronger, you do so by making your enemies weaker at the same time.
City have bid for these players or enquired or even bought.
Tevez United
Barry Villa
Toure Arsenal
Torres Liverpool (todays mail on sunday)
Lescott Everton
Terry Chelsea
2 Months ago the chairman said our target was a top 6 finish. City are being very very strategic by upsetting and ruffling the feathers of the top 6.
Coincidence???? I do not think so!
Citys owners are "ELITE" buisness men who are succesfull as they use strategy as the foundation of their progression by planning and moving slowly.
I guarentee you we will see some crazy things in the final weeks of the transfer window.
Laughable? You need (say) a centre back, possibly two. You have identified (say) half a dozen possible targets, any of whom would make you stronger, any of whom you would have in your side, all of whom you can afford to buy. There is more than a month left in the transfer window. One of your targets plays for Chelsea. One plays for Everton. The other four play for European sides. Who do you target first?mammutly said:So people are actually saying that the club is targeting players not because they are necessarily the best option for the job, but in a deliberate attempt to unsettle our rivals.
That is total garbage IMO. In fact it is laughable.
The idea of considering making a bid because of what effect that might have on another team???
Come on.
DancingBadger said:Laughable? You need (say) a centre back, possibly two. You have identified (say) half a dozen possible targets, any of whom would make you stronger, any of whom you would have in your side, all of whom you can afford to buy. There is more than a month left in the transfer window. One of your targets plays for Chelsea. One plays for Everton. The other four play for European sides. Who do you target first?mammutly said:So people are actually saying that the club is targeting players not because they are necessarily the best option for the job, but in a deliberate attempt to unsettle our rivals.
That is total garbage IMO. In fact it is laughable.
The idea of considering making a bid because of what effect that might have on another team???
Come on.
DancingBadger said:Laughable? You need (say) a centre back, possibly two. You have identified (say) half a dozen possible targets, any of whom would make you stronger, any of whom you would have in your side, all of whom you can afford to buy. There is more than a month left in the transfer window. One of your targets plays for Chelsea. One plays for Everton. The other four play for European sides. Who do you target first?mammutly said:So people are actually saying that the club is targeting players not because they are necessarily the best option for the job, but in a deliberate attempt to unsettle our rivals.
That is total garbage IMO. In fact it is laughable.
The idea of considering making a bid because of what effect that might have on another team???
Come on.
mammutly said:DancingBadger said:Laughable? You need (say) a centre back, possibly two. You have identified (say) half a dozen possible targets, any of whom would make you stronger, any of whom you would have in your side, all of whom you can afford to buy. There is more than a month left in the transfer window. One of your targets plays for Chelsea. One plays for Everton. The other four play for European sides. Who do you target first?mammutly said:So people are actually saying that the club is targeting players not because they are necessarily the best option for the job, but in a deliberate attempt to unsettle our rivals.
That is total garbage IMO. In fact it is laughable.
The idea of considering making a bid because of what effect that might have on another team???
Come on.
The best one.
1961RICH said:Never before have the management of this club been able to even consider a transfer strategy beyond a swap deal.
Never had the power to be taken seriously if we said we wanted to sign the England Captain.
Now we can. When we want where we want & who we want.
It does destabilise other teams - makes the players question what they are doing.I would say this is strategy being played out in front of our eyes.
mammutly said:1961RICH said:Never before have the management of this club been able to even consider a transfer strategy beyond a swap deal.
Never had the power to be taken seriously if we said we wanted to sign the England Captain.
Now we can. When we want where we want & who we want.
It does destabilise other teams - makes the players question what they are doing.I would say this is strategy being played out in front of our eyes.
Do you have any proof of that?
There is always speculation about good players. I don't see top professionals losing form because it is said that another club wants to buy them.
Christ on a bike! Half the premiership would be running around like headless chickens and clubs would be bombarded with false bids all the time.