The Winds of Winter, George RR Martin

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Sad news,it now looks like the next season of Game of thrones will come out before the book,he missed the Halloween deadline which was revised to December and now he has missed that as well.
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THE WINDS OF WINTER is not finished.

Believe me, it gave me no pleasure to type those words. You're disappointed, and you're not alone. My editors and publishers are disappointed, HBO is disappointed, my agents and foreign publishers and translators are disappointed... but no one could possibly be more disappointed than me. For months now I have wanted nothing so much as to be able to say, "I have completed and delivered THE WINDS OF WINTER" on or before the last day of 2015.

But the book's not done.

Nor is it likely to be finished tomorrow, or next week. Yes, there's a lot written. Hundreds of pages. Dozens of chapters. (Those 'no pages done' reports were insane, the usual garbage internet journalism that I have learned to despise). But there's also a lot still left to write. I am months away still... and that's if the writing goes well. (Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.) Chapters still to write, of course... but also rewriting. I always do a lot of rewriting, sometimes just polishing, sometimes pretty major restructures.

I suppose I could just say, "Sorry, boys and girls, still writing," and leave it at that. "It will be done when it's done." Which is what I have been doing, more or less, since... well, forever. But with season 6 of GAME OF THRONES approaching, and so many requests for information boiling up, I am going to break my own rules and say a little more, since it would appear that hundreds of my readers, maybe thousands or tens of thousands, are very concerned about this question of 'spoilers" and the show catching up, revealing things not yet revealed in the books, etc.

My publishers and I have been cognizant of these concerns, of course. We discussed some of them last spring, as the fifth season of the HBO series was winding down, and came up with a plan. We all wanted book six of A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE to come out before season six of the HBO show aired. Assuming the show would return in early April, that meant THE WINDS OF WINTER had to be published before the end of March, at the latest. For that to happen, my publishers told me, they would need the completed manuscript before the end of October. That seemed very do-able to me... in May. So there was the first deadline: Halloween.

Unfortunately, the writing did not go as fast or as well as I would have liked. You can blame my travels or my blog posts or the distractions of other projects and the Cocteau and whatever, but maybe all that had an impact... you can blame my age, and maybe that had an impact too...but if truth be told, sometimes the writing goes well and sometimes it doesn't, and that was true for me even when I was in my 20s. And as spring turned to summer, I was having more bad days than good ones. Around about August, I had to face facts: I was not going to be done by Halloween. I cannot tell you how deeply that realization depressed me.

Early August saw me back east for my nephew's wedding and an appearance with the Staten Island Direwolves. I took advantage of the visit to have another sit down with my editors and publishers and told them that I didn't think I could deliver by Halloween. I thought they'd be sick about it... but I have to say, my editors and publishers are great, and they took it with surprising equanimity. (Maybe they knew it before I did). They already had contigencies in place. They had made plans to speed up production. If I could deliver WINDS OF WINTER by the end of the year, they told me, they could still get it our before the end of March.

I was immensely relieved. I had two whole extra months! I could make that, certainly. August was an insane month, too much travel, too many other obligations... but I'd have September, October, and now November and December as well. Once again I was confident I could do it.

Here it is, the first of January. The book is not done, not delivered. No words can change that. I tried, I promise you. I failed. I blew the Halloween deadline, and I've now blown the end of the year deadline. And that almost certainly means that no, THE WINDS OF WINTER will not be published before the sixth season of GAME OF THRONES premieres in April (mid April, we are now told, not early April, but those two weeks will not save me). Even as late as my birthday and our big Emmy win, I still thought I could do it... but the days and weeks flew by faster than the pile of pages grew, and (as I often do) I grew unhappy with some of the choices I'd made and began to revise... and suddenly it was October, and then November... and as the suspicion grew that I would not make it after all, a gloom set in, and I found myself struggling even more. The fewer the days, the greater the stress, and the slower the pace of my writing became.

Look, I have always had problems with deadlines. For whatever reason, I don't respond well to them. Back in November, when I returned to Northwestern to accept my Alumni Award, I told the Medill students that was why I started writing fiction instead of getting a job on a newspaper. I knew even then that daily deadlines would kill me. That was a joke, of course... but there was truth in it too. I wrote my first novel, DYING OF THE LIGHT, without a contract and without a deadline. No one even knew I was writing a novel until I sent the completed book to Kirby to sell. I wrote FEVRE DREAM the same way. I wrote THE ARMAGEDDON RAG the same way. No contracts, no deadlines, no one waiting. Write at my own pace and deliver when I'm done. That's really how I am most comfortable, even now.

But I won't make excuses. There are no excuses. No one else is to blame. Not my editors and publishers, not HBO, not David & Dan. It's on me. I tried, and I am still trying. I worked on the book a couple of days ago, revising a Theon chapter and adding some new material, and I will writing on it again tomorrow. But no, I can't tell you when it will be done, or when it will be published. Best guess, based on our previous conversations, is that Bantam (and presumably my British publisher as well) can have the hardcover out within three months of delivery, if their schedules permit. But when delivery will be, I can't say. I am not going to set another deadline for myself to trip over. The deadlines just stress me out.

I am going back to my stance from last March, before all this. It will be done when it's done. And it will be as good as I can possibly make it.

Having said all that, I know what the next question will be, because hundreds of you have already asked it of me. Will the show 'spoil' the novels?

Maybe. Yes and no. Look, I never thought the series could possibly catch up with the books, but it has. The show moved faster than I anticipated and I moved more slowly. There were other factors too, but that was the main one. Given where we are, inevitably, there will be certain plot twists and reveals in season six of GAME OF THRONES that have not yet happened in the books. For years my readers have been ahead of the viewers. This year, for some things, the reverse will be true. How you want to handle that... hey, that's up to you. Look, I read Andy Weir's novel THE MARTIAN before I saw the movie. But I saw the BBC production of JONATHAN STRANGE AND MR NORRELL before I finally got around to reading Susanna Clarke's novel. In both cases, I loved the book and I loved the adaptation. It does not need to be one or the other. You might prefer one over the other, but you can still enjoy the hell out of both.

Of course, there's an aspect to our situation that did not apply to either the Weir or Clarke cases. Those novels were finished before they were optioned, adapted, and filmed. The case of GAME OF THRONES and A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE is perhaps unique. I can't think of any other instance where the movie or TV show came out as the source material was still being written. So when you ask me, "will the show spoil the books," all I can do is say, "yes and no," and mumble once again about the butterfly effect. Those pretty little butterflies have grown into mighty dragons. Some of the 'spoilers' you may encounter in season six may not be spoilers at all... because the show and the books have diverged, and will continue to do so.
 
That's good that he's not making excuses, seeing as he took a few years off writing when he started getting paychecks from the series.
 
Remember reading his blogs waiting his 4th book I thought he'd be dead before he finished it but hey he one of these writers that does it at his own pace and doesn't give a shit about outside influences.
 
Well we are probably looking at the end of the year now,obviously going to be so much more stuff in the books seeing as they intend on wrapping up game of thrones within the next two series,i knew the ending would be on tv before the books but was really hoping this book would be out before April, disappointed.
 
He could have got a couple of chapters written in the time it took to make his excuses. ;-)
 
RIP George Martin. You were the real 5th Beatle. Jamming with Phil Collins and the angels now :-(
 
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This guy has to be the slowest writer of all time. I bet the book will be a massive let down when it does eventually get released.
 
This guy has to be the slowest writer of all time. I bet the book will be a massive let down when it does eventually get released.
Well apart from maybe a Feast for Crows his books very rarely let you down, just a shame really,didn't want to watch this series before the books.
 
They already stated the tv show will differ a lot now, due to the fact he's never going to finish before they do. He's given them an end game and certain ideas but the shows creators are going to do their own things to get there I believe.
 
They already stated the tv show will differ a lot now, due to the fact he's never going to finish before they do. He's given them an end game and certain ideas but the shows creators are going to do their own things to get there I believe.

and yes i think based on what George has written he has no right to complain if the tv series isn't in line with how the TV show goes forward from now on
 
and yes i think based on what George has written he has no right to complain if the tv series isn't in line with how the TV show goes forward from now on
Well thats the thing, he usually uses his mouth pieces who run Westeros.org to convey his unhappiness,will be strange to read their take on this next series.
 
Refreshingly honest assessment. It will be done when it's done and I for one can wait. Credit GRRM for having the courage not to bow to immense pressure and serve-up some bullshit in the way that, to some extent, Stephen King did with the final (so called at that time) Dark Tower book 7. As for ASOIF vs GOT - anyone who is really that bothered about possible plot and storyline pollution has the simple option of avoiding one or the other - ie for me I will not be watching the HBO stuff as I prefer the books by some distance. Plus it means that by the time I get to them the box sets will be good value too!
 
The twist in game of thrones is that the writer does before the books are finished.

I reckon his notes that he's left in case he dies are bullshit and his final fuck you will be resurrecting the mad king and having him rule all over again!

Or Bran had an unconscious dream.
 
Refreshingly honest assessment. It will be done when it's done and I for one can wait. Credit GRRM for having the courage not to bow to immense pressure and serve-up some bullshit in the way that, to some extent, Stephen King did with the final (so called at that time) Dark Tower book 7. As for ASOIF vs GOT - anyone who is really that bothered about possible plot and storyline pollution has the simple option of avoiding one or the other - ie for me I will not be watching the HBO stuff as I prefer the books by some distance. Plus it means that by the time I get to them the box sets will be good value too!
Trouble is that it is hard to avoid any spoilers on the internet.
 

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