Theories about how & why the Universe exists

[Johnsonontheleft]

Do you think that someone has already unwittingly come up with the correct theory, or is the truth so outlandish and mind-blowing that no human who has ever lived has thought of the real reason for the Universe & where all this matter came from?

Sometimes I wonder whether, like Horton Hears a Who, the Universe is a minuscule part of something much bigger - though that just leads to more questions.

The frustrating thing is that the answer is out there, it's just tantalisingly out of reach. I am an atheist but I can not get my head around all of this matter, time and space popping up out of nothingness. The Big Bang theory does not sit well with me for this reason.

Even if you believe that the Universe is infinite and has always been there, it's incomprehensible - why these elements, why this structure, why these laws of physics?

In my opinion, NOTHING is too far-fetched in terms of an explanation of the Universe, because the whole notion of the Universe even existing is ridiculously far-fetched in itself.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

God made it.

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

God made it.

...is the easy answer for many, but it gets us nowhere because even if God did make it, it begs the question of why does God exist, where did God come from, who created God?

I know you are being sarcastic but the religious answer is utterly pointless & gets us nowhere.

 

[Bigga]

Are we Horton or are Who-Ville...?

This is confusing...

 

[rushts]

If she says she's on her period and can only take it up the arse beware..





This is the ladyboy thread isn't it?

 

[TangerineSteve17]

Wilmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!?

sorry I mean, Damocleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!?

Nah. it's fascinating. There are so many undisprovable (a word?) theories that I would imagine we'll be long dead before 'the truth' is discovered, if it ever is.

As far as I know the big bang is the something out of nothing quandary. Krauss came close is my understanding, but it's not an answer. We might be warp driving around the universe in 11 dimensions or whatever and still not know how it all came about.

It's such a beautiful thing to think about, but utterly pointless too in a way.

(this maybe the dumbest post ever) It doesn't stop me from pressing submit :)

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

Are we Horton or are Who-Ville...?

This is confusing...

Does it matter? There could be an endless number of Horton's and Who-villes - gets us no closer to the answer though.

Maybe one day someone will have an Eureka moment and everything will just click into place ala Darwin?

 

[DelToro]

If she says she's on her period and can only take it up the arse beware..





This is the ladyboy thread isn't it?

Black holes will certainly come into it at some point.

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

 

[DelToro]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

You're completely pissed and obviously on drugs.

 

[Bill Walker]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

most people arent interested in things like this mate

they are too busy working and paying the bills

 

[Bigga]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

Easy answer is; you'll find out when you pop your clogs.


I DO have a serious question; spiritual followers believe we're all connected via energy (as to why we 'sense' things in each other, have 'gut feelings' and whatever), so does an atheist think this is bullsh*t as well...??

 

[Hamann Pineapple]

Easy answer is; you'll find out when you pop your clogs.

The worms made it all ? That's brilliant, I'm gonna get me a worm.

 

[DelToro]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

Easy answer is; you'll find out when you pop your clogs.


I DO have a serious question; spiritual followers believe we're all connected via energy (as to why we 'sense' things in each other, have 'gut feelings' and whatever), so does an atheist think this is bullsh*t as well...??

Gut feelings can often be put down to heightened sensory perception.

Call it spiritual, call it what you want - but the unconscious can work very efficiently.

 

[TangerineSteve17]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

Be careful, you'll end up a pessimist! Some won't even think on that level, others will and decide it's unimportant, life is important. Others will think on those terms and be scared to death, others will use it as justification to be a twat.

On the whole though people think you get a life and you live it, as best you can. We're all in it together, shuffling along. That's what I think.

I think we're are grown up now enough to think, what else is there to do? The game is shit, but it's the only game going.

 

[Johnsonontheleft]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

most people arent interested in things like this mate

they are too busy working and paying the bills

No matter how hard people work they still have time for rational thought - the fact is they are caught up in the here and now. I am too for much of the time, although I do give the Universe a fair bit of thought.

If you sat back and truly examined the futility of a life working hard and paying bills, it would probably lead to depression. I guess all there is to do is enjoy life as much as you can.

 

[aguero93:20]

It exists to facilitate my existence.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

No one on this forum will ever know in our lifetimes so just love and enjoy those you care about and respect all the rest. Life is a gift and a 7 point lead in feb is nothing.

 

[Bill Walker]

I also find it funny how people just get on with their mundane lives while just accepting that 'yeah, we're a moving collection of elements on a speck floating around a ball of flames in a vast nothingness' - it never crosses most people's minds, but for me it makes the things humans see as important utterly ridiculous. For instance if you met a head of state you'd probably be nervous - at the end of the day they are a similar collection of star dust floating around on the same floating speck. The whole idea of society is a sham, a distraction from reality. I guess it's our reality but we deliberately ignore the bigger picture.

Before anyone asks, I'm completely sober & don't take drugs - this stuff just blows my mind.

most people arent interested in things like this mate

they are too busy working and paying the bills

No matter how hard people work they still have time for rational thought - the fact is they are caught up in the here and now. I am too for much of the time, although I do give the Universe a fair bit of thought.

If you sat back and truly examined the futility of a life working hard and paying bills, it would probably lead to depression. I guess all there is to do is enjoy life as much as you can.

well it seems futile when considering the Andromeda galaxy, but if you dont work and pay the bills you could end up homeless, and thats not futile....:)
Most people would rather think about City and how good Game Of Thrones is in theyre own time.

 

[Dogtanian]

We are part of a computer game and level up by doing tasks in life and gaining stuff to use in your next life..I am level one and it is why i have no hair and am fat, level 30 and you get to be a footballer and fuck Kelly Brook.